front camber problems

[5810]

Ok I just replaced my front struts and springs yesturday (kyb agx, Sportlines) and i thought it would fix my positive camber on DR side.but it didnt. My DR side wheel has positive camber, and PS side has negative
What can cause this Can it be the control arm,bushing,ball joints,ETC. The car had no accidents.

Can some one please help me.

 

[Sk8er07999]

Who knows man. Just get a camber kit then get the car aligned. You won't ever have uneven tire wear again.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

sounds like some shit is bent..bad bushings...alot of thing have it checked at a alignment place and they will tell you whats up..

 

[RallyxDave]

Originally posted by 5810
doesn't no one have any suggestions. ???????????

Yeah. Theres a few things you can do to correct your camber:

The expensive: Buy a set of coilovers with camber plates. You'll be able to set your front end camber to whatever you want.

The cheap: Buy a set of camber bolts, which are eccentric bolts that you use to replace the lower strut mount bolts. You might just need this on the side that has the positive camber.

The free: Slot your lower strut mount bolt _outwards_ on the positive camber wheel using a drill. This is not easy to do correctly, so do it at your own risk!

 

[DeviantClipse]

well i know when i put on the sportlines i got alot of negitive camber and the camber bolts werent big enough to fix it i had to get adjustable ball joints ran me like 225.00. but as for your problem no clue man just telilng what camber kit might help ya out.

 

[5810]

Im going to replace my front control arm bushing with energy suspension bushings, both ball joints are shot, im going to peplace them to. hope this fixes the problem. Is there any way to check if the control arm is bent .

 

[jtmcinder]

I really doubt that a control arm is bent. Something else would break or bend first.

There are two ways to simultaneously add negative camber to one side and positive to the other: (1) the car's body is rolled to one side, and (2) the subframe is shifted sideways. These are what I'd check first.

However, how sure are you that you added negative to one side and positive to the other? You get negative from just lowering the car. Much more likely is that you don't have two simultaneous problems, but that you have only one problem and that problem is causing positive camber on one side. So after the initial check, focus on the side that is positive.

Check for a bent control arm. Yeah, I said this was doubtful, but it only takes a minute. Then look at the subframe that mounts the control arm. Also try to measure the set-back on both sides to make sure that they match (they should on all pre-late-96 DSMs). Also look at where the strut mounts to the knuckle.

- Jtoby

 

[5810]

I did alignment at school, and dr side had +.40, and the ps -.40,

Thanks for the suggestions ill start checking

 

[jtmcinder]

I don't have a map of the bump-camber curves for a 1G, but if you only have -.40 degrees of camber after adding Sportlines, then something seems weird on that side, too. Are the bump-camber curves for 1G that bad?

- Jtoby

 

[5810]

I checked my subframe and is bent,but for now i dont want to tear everything down to replace it. i bought some camber bolts and installed on the dr side with the positive camber. I knocked the camber to -.30 like the ps side. caster is good( i did alignment two days ago). My rear is all good with -.90 camber.


My question is should i adust my front camber to -1.00, will it make a big difference in cornering.

 

[RallyxDave]

Originally posted by 5810
My question is should i adust my front camber to -1.00, will it make a big difference in cornering.

It would make some difference, but not much. Set it to -2.5 degrees and throw on some R-compound tires and you will see a big difference

 

[jtmcinder]

For cornering, you really want more front camber than rear. (Without this, you'd need ridiculous springs to dial out the understeer.) So, yes, adding more negative up front will help. Your target - as Dave wrote - is up in the 2.5 degree range, with the rears being 1.0 to 1.5.

- Jtoby

 

[5810]

wow, thats alot of camber, it will eat up my tires like crazy, im going to dial in -1.25 to -1.5. I thing that will be enaugh.

 

[jtmcinder]

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Camber does very little damage to tires. It's toe that kills tires. Yes, the effects of toe are magnified when concentrated on a small section of the tire, but it's the toe that does the damage, since camber alone is fine.

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- Jtoby

 

[hoffman]

^ agreed

i run -2.5front/-1rear camber. 0 toe all around. no problems. my street tires still last abut 20k miles (about 3 years worth of driving for me).

you guys really need to start reading the archives more often