no front sway bar! [Merged 9-9]

[95talontsi]

Well not exactly, I was doing some tranny work to my car and my friend pointed out that I had no endlink on the left side of the front sway bar?? wtf I bought this car off an autocrosser it has adjustable shocks buts that about it is this an autocrossing secrect??

 

[1LE]

Some autox guys do it to change handling... Other ex-autox cars have broken endlinks from the stress

 

[97SpyyderGST]

If I was to disconnect and remove my front sway bar for autocross this Sunday would it cause any damage or just be alot of fun? I figure that would give me some oversteer and be alot of fun...I have heard of some local auto-xer's doing this, i am missing the drivers side frond end link so it would be too much trouble to remove it...but thanks alot for your help

 

[jtmcinder]

If one end-link is already missing, then why bother to remove the bar? Leaving it in the car has the distinct advantage of making it easier to reconnect when your experiment convinces you that you need the front bar.

- Jtoby

 

[Defiant]

i am missing the drivers side frond end link

Then you're pretty much already disconnected, aren't you?

God, it must drive like a dream.

One of those ones where something large is about to make you their lunch.

 

[jtmcinder]

God, it must drive like a dream.

Hmm. Most people would describe it as "loose" or "ass-happy," but you say it's a "dream." Oh, wait! Now I get it. You're still single, aren't you?

- Jtoby

 

[Jehu]

I think if one endlink is already off, you should also take off the other one. It'll balance out the weight.

 

[jtmcinder]

I think if one endlink is already off, you should also take off the other one. It'll balance out the weight.

Oh, com'on. Do you know what an end-link weighs?

Also, if you take both off, how are you going to keep the bar from banging into things?

- Jtoby

 

[Jehu]

I had hoped that the statement was over the top enough it would be very apparent that it was facetious...guess not.

 

[jtmcinder]

No, I'm sorry. That was my bad. I should have done the ten seconds of homework - e.g., http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1402430#post1402430 - to get a better understanding of your background.

My only excuse is that the signal-to-noise ratio does sometimes dip pretty low. But that's a lousy excuse, since my snide reply would lower it further.

Sorry.

- Jtoby

 

[3literpwr]

I ran mine disconnect a few weeks ago after I had a off and destroyed a control arm and the sway bar endlink..... I liked the car better after it was disconnected........... Then again I was on ice/snow....

Cheers
Larry

 

[97SpyyderGST]

Well, I thank you for your help (most of you), the others one who thought it would be a good idea to make sarcastic coments or degrading (i.e. "balance the weight out" .... go somewhere where asinine comments are found funny. Only reason why I wanted to take the bar completly off is to keep it from sliding around and making a bunch of unwanted noise. And yes, this whole idea was just to have a little bit of fun at autocross, not a serious "performance" upgrade or even an upgrade at all, it would be JUST FOR FUN and thats it. My actuall question was if I was to take off the front sway bar would it do ANY damage. Now if the other half of you guys that made useless comments couldnt understand the context of the question then don't post! Don't waste everyones time. Now if anyone has some real information to post here, then please do. I appreciate everyone who actually gave me their time to elaborate and/or "sort of" answer my question. I am 99.9% sure that it wont, but I just want to make sure it wont damage anything else.

 

[Jehu]

And if you read a little more carefully, you'd realise what people are saying...If one end link is already disconnected, that means your sway bar IS NOT DOING ANY WORK ANYWAY, which then means, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF YOU TAKE THE WHOLE THING OFF. Hope this is clear enough now.

 

[jtmcinder]

Look, it was a pretty silly question, to be blunt -- not really worth posting in anything "above" the newbies' forum. But instead of just ignoring it, we answered the question and then we paid ourselves back by having a few giggles. Relax. Life is too short.

Have fun autocrossing. If the car is still pushing but now also snap-spins, look for the various thread on weight transfer and roll resistance to see why this is happening.

- Jtoby

 

[ShortysTRM]

He was completely aware of the fact that this is a bad idea if he was trying to improve his times, but he just wanted to know if it would hurt anything. He has been driving it with one side disconnected, but it doesn't mean it's not going to hurt anything or hasn't already. The end-links we got the other day were the wrong part so he's without a car at autocross unless he just goes without a front bar. Judging by the snap oversteer he was getting at the last autocross, it may have been disconnected already, but he just wanted to make sure he wasn't going to destroy anything.
Also, he is aware of body roll and roll resistance. His "to do" list includes RM DSM bars and either coil-overs or Eibach's with adjustable Koni's.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

BTW that snow/rally cross looks like heaven. I'd like to try it sometime...

 

[garage16]

Alright so Im doing a drag FWD car (only for 1/4mile) and wanted to know if removing the front sway bar will help in anyway

 

[turbosax2]

It will help by losing the weight.

 

[GofaST4life]

It will help by losing the weight.

honestly, thats the only thing i could think of...

 

[360glitch]

If the car is track only (drag that is) I guess it wouldn't hurt to take it off but if you are driving it on the street much I'd just leave it on.

 

[garage16]

It will help by losing the weight.

Will it help in anyway by keeping car straight?

 

[360glitch]

Will it help in anyway by keeping car straight?

No. Removing it would likely hurt it before it helped keep straight.

 

[christ]

I broken a end link trying to remove it one time and on the drive to the part store, it felt like driving a marshmellow every time the steering wheel was turned. Definitely leave it on your daily driver. Not worth removing and reinstalling for track days neither since you gotta drop crossmembers for a negligible amount of weight.

 

[99cliprs]

well I have a fwd and it seems to help out when launching by the feel of things maybe cause it keeps the towers workining together but thats my opinion, try both ways and see which one you like better if you can even tell a difference

 

[garage16]

well looks like ill be just removing it

 

[woomer]

ok did a lot of research in here trying every thread i could ........will taking off my front sway bar help reduse my front end push???????ive read several articles saying yes and several saying no .........i race dirt track and make left hand turns only .....i need a opinion here from one of you seasoned vetrens in here asap........i need some help on getting the push out of my car .thanks