Please shed light on this alignment sheet (may answer YOUR alignment question too)

[DSMRevolution]

I got my car aligned and lowered w/ Eibach Sportlines and KYB shocks and struts. When I got the alignment done, I recieved a paper examining the before and after results of my alignment. Here it is, I will try to post this the best as possible.

Note: I understand what camber + and - is and what toe in and out is.


Left Front
camber caster toe
before : -0.40 +3.40 -0.08
min. : -0.34 +1.80 -0.13
perferred : +0.16 +2.31 0.00
max : +0.66 +2.81 +0.13
after : -0.50 +3.30 -0.01

written notes: camber bolt (needed maybe?) and no adj. for caster



Right Front
camber caster toe
before : -1.20 +2.70 +0.13
min. : -0.34 +1.80 -0.13
perferred : +0.16 +2.31 0.00
max : +0.66 +2.81 +0.13
after : -1.10 +2.70 -0.01

written notes: camber bolt (needed maybe?) and no adj. for caster


Front Totals
camber caster toe
before : +0.05 +0.80 +0.70
min. : -0.26 -- --
perferred : 0.00 -- --
max : +0.26 -- --
after : -0.02 +0.60 +0.60



Left Rear
camber toe
before : -3.30 -0.35
min. : -2.06 +0.03
perferred : -1.56 +0.15
max : -1.06 +0.28
after : -2.20 -0.19

written notes: camber after is maxed and no adj for toe



Right Rear
camber toe
before : -3.40 +0.18
min. : -2.06 +0.03
perferred : -1.56 +0.15
max : -1.06 +0.28
after : -2.70 +0.33

written notes: camber after is maxed and no adj for toe


Rear Totals:
Total Toe Cross camber
before : -0.17 +0.10
min. : +0.06 --
perferred : +0.30 --
max : +0.56 --
after : +0.14 +0.50



S.A.I. = +15.30 Included angle = +14.80 (left of car)

S.A.I. = +15.80 Included angle = +14.70 (right of car)


Thrust Angle = -0.30 (left of car)

Rear Setback = -0.30
Front Setback = 0.00




AHH That took forever!! Please help me out and let me know what I need to get my Talon handling perfectly w/ the suspension I have. I know I need some sort of camber kit along w/ a rear kit. Also please explain all this jibberish too me! I mean I understand what is perfered and now far it is off still, but I don't know why or what to do to fix it. Thanks


Edit: Also is there a perfered alignment for somebody that wishes to do alot of quick cornering on the street and maybe some AWD drifting? Or AutoX? Or is the stock alignment number good for this?

 

[slideways]

Looks ok now, but you do need camber correction kits. By your before camber settings you car either pulled left or someone went a bit to far with road crown correction. I'd guess it drives straight on a flat road now right? SAI is nice and even so nothing is bent. Get those kits and you will be good to go...

Here is thread on drift suspension and set up...
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59307

Good Luck,
Brandon

 

[DSMRevolution]

Perfect! Thanks for the help and the link

 

[igs]

what he mean no adjustment for rear toe???

 

[Module Unknown]

Since we're on the subject of alignment. Is it possible for an improper alignment to screw up the handling characteristics of your car so bad that the front end feels loose, and turn in and response feels delayed and sluggish. Or even give the car an odd body roll feeling where it feels like the body of the car is trailing an action you just made asecond ago? Cause um, that's my car.

 

[DSMRevolution]

Originally posted by Module Unknown
Since we're on the subject of alignment. Is it possible for an improper alignment to screw up the handling characteristics of your car so bad that the front end feels loose, and turn in and response feels delayed and sluggish. Or even give the car an odd body roll feeling where it feels like the body of the car is trailing an action you just made asecond ago? Cause um, that's my car.

Could be alignment, but it sounds like you need new tierod bushings. I would just replace the tierod myself though.

 

[slideways]

Module, You need to shake down your front end and a find what has play in it. A loose/worn steering component or sloppy bushing will contribute to alignment problems. So just having it aligned wont solve it, plus if you replace a front end part it will have to be aligned anyway.

 

[Module Unknown]

Well I didn't think an alignment being out of whack could screw anything up that bad, but I figured i'd ask anyway. I spent a while this past weekend looking around for something that may be worn like a bushing or even missing, or looksing for anything being loose, etc. No luck. At least I couldn't find anything. But then again I probably don't know everywhere I should be lookin. One thing that I just noticed on my way home is that braking at highway speeds, my car pulls right. I may end up taking it somewhere soon. I don't know what else to look for.

 

[slideways]

A pull under braking huh? Typically would point to a brake problem but since you mentioned your front end feels loose and sloppy and you have a pull under braking check for a bad a control arm bushing. Specifically on the side that it pulls to.