K SPort COilovers ???

[Slippi84]

Anyone hear anything or have any experience with the K SPort coilover system you see on ebay? I mean for like 900 bucs for complete setup that's completely adjustable seems liek it would be worth going with over TEIN which is liek 500 bucs more. I don't really care about auto-X or anythig liek that just want the car to handle better and have a more agressive and lower stanc. More imprtantly I want them to give me the ability to run the 1320 without bouncing just squat and go. I knwo suspension is a very underated part of drag/strip racing so I'm trying to deal with it as cheap yet still effectivly as possible.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KSPO...3QQihZ019QQcategoryZ33582QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That is for the 2g but the 1g kit is pretty much the same for the most part.

 

[RusherRacing]

From what you said your looking for its a good setup.

I am not familar with K-Sports on DSM specific but a very good friend and fellow racer runs K-Sports on his 97 Nissan SER. We are running into some issues with them but thats because its a 12's drag car that tears it up at the AutoX. The stock spring rates aren't correct for his application, and He blew the rear struts within the first year. The reason he blew the struts was because of the spring rates. He was picking up his inside rear tire 8"-12" around corners and slamming it back down exiting the corners. We are working with K-Sport on new spring options and should have it figured out here in the next month or so.

K-sports are nice because the spring is standard length and diameter so they are very easily replaced by eibach or hypercoils.

 

[Slippi84]

Yeah I"m trying to put together a low 11 sec car maybe even high 10 sec car. So if it was just the auto Xing that did his rear strut in then I'm good cause I don't plan on lifting any wheelss off the ground.

 

[RU2SLOW?]

Very good quality coilovers, especially for the price. I have the D2s (virtually the same as KSport) on my fwd 1G and my friend has the KSports on his awd 1G. We both love em for comfort and handling. The ride height is seperately adjustable from the spring tension so you wont lose suspension travel with these like with Ground Controls or Skunk 2s sleeve type coilover setups. They also give you a great range of dampening adjustment, so you can set them up for auto-x, drag racing, street/strip, pretty much most applications...

 

[Slippi84]

Very good quality coilovers, especially for the price. I have the D2s (virtually the same as KSport) on my fwd 1G and my friend has the KSports on his awd 1G. We both love em for comfort and handling. The ride height is seperately adjustable from the spring tension so you wont lose suspension travel with these like with Ground Controls or Skunk 2s sleeve type coilover setups. They also give you a great range of dampening adjustment, so you can set them up for auto-x, drag racing, street/strip, pretty much most applications...

That's what I'm talking about

 

[jtmcinder]

There's a hint in some of the above that K-Sports/D2s might handle better than GC set-ups. That might be true if the GC sleeves are on some Asian shock, but GCs with Konis destroy K-Sports/D2s in an autocross.

(But, of course, you all knew I'd say this because I've said it in previous K-Sport/D2 threads.)

- Jtoby

 

[Slippi84]

There's a hint in some of the above that K-Sports/D2s might handle better than GC set-ups. That might be true if the GC sleeves are on some Asian shock, but GCs with Konis destroy K-Sports/D2s in an autocross.

(But, of course, you all knew I'd say this because I've said it in previous K-Sport/D2 threads.)

- Jtoby

To be honest I could care less about auto X it's just not my cup of tea. I might get into actual racing but auto-X just aint for me. So with that said as long as I can get a better stance so my car doesn't sit like a truck and run the 1320 faster then I'm straight. Turning is overatted anyway

 

[jtmcinder]

Cool. But, next time, please don't say that you "just want the cart to handle god have a more agressive lower stance." That way I'll have more than your version of English to tell me to stay out of your thread. Thanks.

- Jtoby

 

[Slippi84]

Cool. But, next time, please don't say that you "just want the cart to handle god have a more agressive lower stance." That way I'll have more than your version of English to tell me to stay out of your thread. Thanks.

- Jtoby

Sorry about that I'm on a phone right now and the buttons stick let me go back and make that into english.

 

[RU2SLOW?]

JTM...

My reference to the KSports in comparison to the GCs was based more on streetability/ride comfort than handling properties in an auto-x arena. I only have personal experience with GCs paired with AGXs and I was less than impressed with this setup. It works well for someone wanting to keep their DSM close to stock ride height and have simple adjustability for the track. However, driving the car on the sleeve type coilovers when it is lowered a significant amount from stock ride height makes for a truly uncompromising experience on the street. My car is frequently driven during the summer and a weekend ride/occasional drag car, and for this I find the KSport/D2s to be excellent. It should also be noted that I appreciate a significantly low, aggressive stance.

I wouldn't second guess your suspension setups regarding auto-x experience because I've been a member here long enough to recognize your level of knowledge and participation in such events. So I just wanted to clarify what I was getting at but didn't emphasize with my previous comparison.

 

[jtmcinder]

There is really no important difference between a good sleeve kit and shocks with threaded bodies. (You might argue that being able to set preload is useful, but I doubt that anyone participating so far knows why people do this and how & when it can help.) Your previous problems are due to the AGXs not the GC sleeves. I've driven both 1Gs and 2Gs on AGXs and have nothing good to say about them other than they managed to not fall apart while the car was in motion.

More generall, here are what I find annoying about this thread: First, we've beaten the question of these particular kits to death; we did not need a new thread on the topic. The only question we didn't address was whether orange or purple is better, which would decide the question of K-Sports vs D2s.) Second, there's zero technical information here. This is Tuners, not Talk, so I expect to see a discussion of front rebound and rear compression if the thread is about drag racing. That's the main problem with 99% of Asian shocks: too much compression damping for the amount of rebound and no way to change the ratio (since the adjuster changes both at the same time). Third, there's now this suggestion that there's something wrong with GC sleeve kits, when the real issue is what shock is inside the sleeve. Finally, if you're going to come into the Handling forum and make snide comments about autocrossing and/or road-racing (i.e., forms of racing that live and die by handling), then be ready for a snippy response.

Please, everyone: just drop this thread. If you're interested in these particular kits, find one of the old threads about them. (I know they exist.) If you're interested in set-ups for drag-racing, find an existing thread about that. (They exist, too.)

- Jtoby