KYB AGX...what do you have your set to?

[Knoob]

i was thinking of changing my stuff around. the higher the number the stiffer correct? or is it the lower the number the stiffer?

i wanted to make my rear as stiff as it will go and my front kind of bouncy.

what do you have your's set to for highway driving?

 

[Knoob]

20 views.... no response. just what i figured. dsmtuners went downhill in the help department.

thanks guys..... for nothing.

just so the future people who come to this thread....

the higher the number the stiffer.

 

[eclipsh]

Bitter much? Maybe they just didn't have a good answer...

I run my front struts at 4 and my rear at 1. Having the front stiff gives you better response without bounce. If I set the rear at stiff the car is bouncy as hell on highway driving and miserable to ride in. I only use the stiff setting in the rear when I'm racing.

Or just go play with your settings, that's what I did to find what I liked. Not like it's that hard to change...

 

[FyxxterZC]

Considering most people don't trust kyb agx's for 2gs because of the whole front strut scare, no one can probably tell you. I can post an opinion and you can try that and go from there. I would think yes stiffening up the rears to around 6 and the fronts on say 2 would be fine. The only way you can really test it is go to an autocross course and play. Or a really curvy road (no don't be stupid and try to go super fast) just push it enough to feel what the cars doing and adjust accordingly. Hope that helps.

 

[Goro21]

Considering most people don't trust kyb agx's for 2gs because of the whole front strut scare, no one can probably tell you.

I think you'll find this comment in just about every thread on this forum regarding AGXs. They remanufactured the shocks about 10 years ago to fix this issue, I wish RRE would take that stupid link off their site regarding this issue. I know/have met probably 15 people that run AGXs on their 2gs and have had no problems, and certainly dont worry about having issues. (including myself)

To answer your question Knoob, I run my AGXs on setting 3 out of 4 all the way around. 4 is just too stiff for me on an everyday basis. A lot of people I have met run the same, although some run 3 in the front and 2 in the rear. A lot of it is a matter of personal preference and how you typically drive.

 

[jtmcinder]

20 views.... no response. just what i figured. dsmtuners went downhill in the help department.

The help seems to be about the same as usual. The questions, however....

- Jtoby

 

[Jon Lane]

I think you'll find this comment in just about every thread on this forum regarding AGXs. They remanufactured the shocks about 10 years ago to fix this issue, I wish RRE would take that stupid link off their site regarding this issue. I know/have met probably 15 people that run AGXs on their 2gs and have had no problems, and certainly dont worry about having issues. (including myself)

To answer your question Knoob, I run my AGXs on setting 3 out of 4 all the way around. 4 is just too stiff for me on an everyday basis. A lot of people I have met run the same, although some run 3 in the front and 2 in the rear. A lot of it is a matter of personal preference and how you typically drive.

I bought some in '01 and they were longer than stock. Worse, the rears blew out in 18 months of light use, and KYB won't warranty coil-overs. Something to think about. For the 2G, AGX are a very bad idea.

what do you have your's set to for highway driving?

The dumpster.

 

[Goro21]

I bought some in '01 and they were longer than stock. Worse, the rears blew out in 18 months of light use, and KYB won't warranty coil-overs. Something to think about. For the 2G, AGX are a very bad idea.



The dumpster.

Not going to argue, but just for future viewers of this thread, AGXs were remanufactured many years ago and are now stock length. I know some would disagree with me, but AGXs are every bit as good as Illuminas.

And as for the warranty, KYB has honored every warranty issue I have seen (which has only been one)

 

[awdtalontsi1992]

I have run my AGX's for about a year and a half now and have no problems. I usually run 3 on the fronts and 5 in the rear. The rears are alittle stiff for these damn Pennsylvania roads but they seem to be the setting I like the best. Good luck.

 

[T9S1i]

when i first put my agx's in i wanted to put them somewhere in the middle and play with them from there, but it seems like i like where they are at/and i never really got around to changing them. i have them set to 2 in the front and 4 in the rear.

What are the advantages of soft/hard in the rear/front for different racing situations, ive heard for drag racing with fwd you want it all the way stiff in the back to give the fronts the most traction. Is this the same with awd?? What about hitting a road course? Is it mostly all about driver habits/preferences? Im moslty interested in the drag racing settings for an awd...

sorry if im jacking the thread, but the questions are related!
danny

 

[eclipsh]

^^^ I too am curious what people are running for racing, though I'm more concerned with AutoX. I just figured maximum firmness all around would give the most solid handling but I could be very wrong...

 

[WatchItExplode]

^^^^jtmcinder...help pleeeease haha.

 

[EclipseTrbo420A]

I run mine at 1 front 2 rear, I havnt had em long enough to go out and "test" my suspension. I do know there were 2 other 2Gs that ran highest setting on both for the around town driving and theres gave out just over a year.

 

[desolateboosted]

I have mine set on 4 in the front and 4 in the back. The ride is pretty stiff and as stiff as I can take. I had set them at a full 6 or 8 in the back and it was soo stiff I came out of the car after riding on the freeway feeling like I had a broken back. I like to ride my car stiff since you never know when you need that extra tightness .

 

[jtmcinder]

^^^^jtmcinder...help pleeeease haha.

Asking what setting to use on a specific shock is not really useful if you don't also specify the springs.

One of the most-basic concepts in suspension design is that the shocks and springs must be matched. They are not independent sub-systems.

- Jtoby

 

[Zero Bar]

^^^ I too am curious what people are running for racing, though I'm more concerned with AutoX. I just figured maximum firmness all around would give the most solid handling but I could be very wrong...

Like Jtoby says, it varies greatly. On my car at autox 2 on the front shocks and 4 in the rear is almost too stiff. I have GC coilovers that are 400lb front/350lb in the rear, poly bushings, front and rear sway bars, and a roll bar.
The exact same coilvers and shocks on my turbo car without all the other mods worked best at 3 in the front and 8 in the rear. You'll have to play with it and see what works best. On my current car I couldn't imagine anything above full soft for on the street, its stiff as it is and like riding on solid torsion bars almost with the settings at autox.
Your spring rate, and other mods to the car will affect the ride quality. Start on full soft and drive around the block or something, then move up 1 setting on the shocks each time till you find what you like. Same for autox, I kept moving the shocks stiffer till I foud what I liked and worked best for me.

 

[eclipsh]

That's pretty much what I figured. I'll be going AutoXing tomorrow so I'll play around a bit. I think I'll set all to 4 and see what it does first.

 

[Talesin]

Usually I keep mine set to 2/4, gives a bit of a stiff ride, but with the B+G springs and 225/45/17s, seems to be needed to compensate for the lost inch of travel and less pneumatic absorbency. Running the tires a little higher than the stock 35psi seems to help too.

When I have a smooth, well-paved ro^H^Htrack, I'll usually switch it up to 3/8 to try and eliminate some of the understeer. Usually lets the back end kick out a little easier; if the rear end is set too soft, it'll 'hop' out around tight radius hairpins. Frustrating as hell sometimes. This is with a front strut tower, but no rear.. could be body-flex doing it at the softer setting, for all I know.


Higher is stiffer, but remember. On 4/8 shocks, 1/2 is 'stock' firmness. 1 on an 8 shock is 5% softer than factory. Beyond that... 1=2, 2=4, and so on... the intermediate numbers are just a finer degree of control on the 8-position shock. For those that don't have it, I'd emailed KYB corporate and got a list of numbers.

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The AGX products have the following approximate damping force values.
When adjusted, both rebound and compression damping forces change.

Setting#:
Relative Value
1 - Same as Factory 100

2 - Same as our GR2 products (10~15% firmer than Factory) 115

3 - 50% firmer than #2 172

4 - 30% firmer than #3 223


For an eight position adjustable product, the damping force values are
approx.
the following:
With #2 being Factory at a relative value of 100,


#1 = 95 (5% softer than Factory #5 = 143.5 (43.5% firmer
than Factory)
#2 = 100 (Factory damping force) #6 = 172 (72% firmer
than Factory)
#3 = 107.5 (7.5% firmer than Factory) #7 = 197.5 (97.5 firmer
than Factory)
#4 = 115 (15% firmer than Factory)(GR-2) #8 = 223 (123 % firmer
than Factory)

 

[Zero Bar]

That's some nice info Talesin, thanx!

 

[Knoob]

Talesin! Good post!

 

[1996dsm]

5 in the front 7 in the rear, with Dropzone springs. rides great and handles better.