Which is the model of cheap NAPA rotors folks use?

[ahains]

After searching around quite a bit, I decided I wanted these $30/pair NAPA rotors that DSMers have been buying for years.

I looked under eclipse, talon, and laser, and I don't think I am finding this cheap of rotors.
The closest is:
"Tru-Stop Brake Parts Rotor - Front", part number "UTS 4886153", for $29.99.

I could be mistaken, but I believe this is the price for one, not two. I'll call tomorrow to find out.

Are these the rotors that folks have been ordering? Or was it something like the "NAPA United Rotor - Front" (part UBP 86153) for $75, and the price is just far higher than it was in the threads I read?

Thanks!
Adrian
91 TSi

 

[ahains]

Bah, it only includes one rotor. I shouldn't be surprised, as this is what I would expect, but I'm still bummed.
I don't think they have any $30/pair rotors anymore.. probably because the price of steel has gone up over the last year or so.

Oh well, they're are still tons cheaper than any other option even at 60/front (total) and 50/rear (total).

If you're slightly curious, I got these semi-metallic pads since OEM are semi-metallic:
>Item: Brake Pads - Front, Premium
>Product Number: BA 0821426
>Price: $25.99

>Item: Brake Pads - Rear, Premium
>Product Number: BA 0821285
>Quantity: 1
>Price: $23.49

I measured my rotors last week and they were just barely above minimum, so this should be a nice improvement in that I'll have less brake fluid total in play. I have mystery pads on the car currently from the previous owner, and they feel pretty crappy. Hopefully these cheap pads are better. We'll see, I'll report back when I have the system done. I'm hoping to swap them all and flush the lines with some Valvoline synthetic brake fluid tomorrow evening.

-Adrian

 

[x camaro owner]

you want to know the best part of the story i bet the gym shoes he has on cost $70 but brakes for the car lets see how close he can get to $20

i do have to say atleast he has great taste in brake fluid. but why buy one of the most expensive brake fluids and use it with the shittiest brakes

 

[x camaro owner]

you think he was able to find pads made out of rubber to

 

[ahains]

x camaro owner - have you used these brakes personally, or are you assuming they have poor performance based on cost? I would love to wear cheap shoes, but they either look or feel like crap (I have tried quite a few). If I can find a decent performing brake rotor and pad for a good price, what is wrong with that?
I'm not claiming these brakes are good - I have never tried them. All I am claiming is that DSM owners who HAVE tried them (and have track experience), said they were great. Do a search, if you don't believe me. Regarding the price of Valvoline, this stuff is great and cheap. What is it, $2 more than crap fluid?
I make a decent wage, but I'd rather put a few more bucks in my daughter's college fund than a fancier name on my brake parts, ASSUMING they have decent performance. As you may or may not know, brake pads perform their best in a specific temperature range. Any pad that is great for a track, is downright dangerous on the street when cold. Given that I do 99.9% of my driving commuting to work, my stops are infrequent so the brakes do not stay at a high temperature. I do drive 'spritedly', but I just don't have that many places I need to stop. It was annoying as heck when I had high performance pads and had to drag the brakes from time to time to keep them in the zone. If I go out to a road track I will swap in some (cheap ) higher temp pads.. this gives you the best of both worlds.

I went to put on the front rotors last night, and they didn't fit. They were a wider diameter. I had ordered rotors for a 91 Eclipse GSX because of threads suggesting they were cheaper than the talon rotors, and would work fine. They are not the same between a 91 GSX and TSi, or else Napa's computer is wrong.. which may in fact be more likely. They were the same price, so this was a lame mistake on my part (mislead by a previous post, or NAPA computer is just wrong). I got UTS4886163, and should have gotten UTS4886162. Both are $24.99/each.

Regardless, I will be attempting to return these front rotors. The rear's look correct, but I haven't pulled off one yet to be certain.

One significant problem I have with the NAPA rotors is that they do not have the two threaded rotor holes for removing the rotor easily. I just checked the schucks website (partsamerica) and they have front rotors for ~$24, with the holes, in stock down the street from me. So I'm going to go with these.. I'm bringing in an old rotor to verify it is correct.

By the way, I couldn't find the specifics for the bolt you need to get old rotors off in a search. For future reference, it is an M8 metric bolt, with a 1.25 thread pitch. I got an M8 x 30 and it was plenty long.. a M8 by 20 may have been long enough, I didn't have one to try.

 

[ahains]

The Schucks rotors fit fine, but it turned out that they do not have the two threaded holes in them that allows you to use two bolts to get them off more easily. I'm dissapointed about this, but oh well.

After a thorough flushing of the brake system, I have to say I'm pretty happy with the brakes for a street car. I tried to generally follow the spirit of the bed-in procedure outlined here:
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/bedinstock.htm

I didn't actually brake from 60-10, I just slowly warmed up the rotors to quite hot by dragging the brakes a little bit at a time while driving. After they were nice and toasty (fading some), I just drove awhile to let them slowly cool. I chose a route that would allow me to avoid stopping while they were cooling.

I haven't tried any other decent pads on my DSM, but I remember the porterfield r4s on my MR2 had a lot more friction to them. I think this is due to the trade off of the really poor cold braking they had. I would prefer to find a pad that has more friction than these NAPA pads, but still were targetted at these lower temps so it sticks decent cold and fades when driving at a track. Overall these are still quite a bit better than my previous mystery pads were.

-Adrian

 

[ahains]

One more note - does anyone know if the supposed "good" napa pads are different than the part numbers I have in the above post? There are quite a few to choose from, so it's hard to know if I got the ones that have been praised previously.

Thanks,
Adrian

 

[Ralli///Art GS]

you want to know the best part of the story i bet the gym shoes he has on cost $70 but brakes for the car lets see how close he can get to $20

i do have to say atleast he has great taste in brake fluid. but why buy one of the most expensive brake fluids and use it with the shittiest brakes

You call Valvoline brake fluid expensive? It's like 4 bucks for a big bottle.....