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05-03-2006, 01:44 PM
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Parts from other applications
Been lookin around and seems like quite a few parts from other cars fit on our cars.. From the Neon Tranny on the 420a motor and the Dodge Avenger..
So, what parts have you found out fit on our DSMS? 
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05-03-2006, 01:59 PM
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Jeep throttle body.
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05-03-2006, 02:00 PM
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I posted this in another thread:
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Originally Posted by VelocitąPaola
To answer some of the ensuing questions in advance, suspension parts and exhaust parts (from the catalytic converter back) are interchangeable between the RS, GS, and GS-T 2G models.
Interior and exterior body components are interchangeable between the all models.
Brakes are interchangeable between all models.
Electrical connections and wire colors are usually the same with regard to universally present/available parts (i.e. taillights, moon roofs, speakers, etc), but otherwise they are different.
Obviously the engine, drivetrain and ECU are different between the models. This includes all engine wiring harnesses, fuel injectors, fuel rail, intake, downpipe, clutch, radiator, and accessories (power steering, alternator, air conditioning, etc.).
If in doubt, the GS-T has more in common with the GS and RS than the GSX (although I doubt you'll ever be scavenging parts off of a 2G GSX).
For the record, most suspension components, and even a few interior and exterior components (door handles, center console, etc.) are interchangeable between Eclipses and cloud cars (Stratus, Cirrus, Sebring) of the right year (roughly 1995-2002) and trim level.
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I know, that's mostly the interchangeability between the DSM models, but look at the last sentence.
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05-03-2006, 02:04 PM
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In addition to that, some 1995-1999 Avenger/Sebrings, and most Neon engine blocks are the same as the 2GNT blocks.
The Neon ECUs can also be used in our cars.
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05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
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lets not forget the 2.4l swap from the cloud cars. It requires some modification to work (  ) , but our head works on it and our tranny bolts up to.
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05-03-2006, 03:12 PM
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...but the neon head does not 
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05-03-2006, 06:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Neon ECU's cannot be used in our cars.
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05-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Neon ECU's cannot be used in our cars.
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They can, it's just that the pinouts are a little different, so you would need to do some rewiring (assuming this is from a DOHC, obviously).
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05-03-2006, 06:42 PM
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Robbed an ignition relay from a jeep today.
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05-03-2006, 07:24 PM
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What would even be the advantage of using a neon ecu?
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05-03-2006, 07:34 PM
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What would even be the advantage of using a neon ecu?
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None whatsoever, I was just arguing for the sake of arguing...
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05-03-2006, 07:39 PM
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What would even be the advantage of using a neon ecu?
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It would add power! 
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05-03-2006, 09:05 PM
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hey ya never know...just like some have higher redlines than others etc 
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05-04-2006, 12:42 AM
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By the way, the Jeep TB isn't an exact swap.
There is a lil more to it than just taking it off a jeep and slapping it on the 420a intake manifold.
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05-05-2006, 04:11 PM
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We can also use the PT Crusier GT Turbo auto tranny!
Thats a great upgrade for us Auto guys...
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05-05-2006, 06:43 PM
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...or you could do an mtx swap 
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05-05-2006, 09:04 PM
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becareful with the the Neon Block being called the same. That statement is not altogether wrong but not altogether correct.
The Neon 2.0 DOHC bottom end is a direct fit for your 2gnt. Compression is the same; however the PCV system in the 95 was different. The PCV lines entered the block in the front with 2 large lines. These need to be capped off in our cars.
The Neon 2.0 SOHC bottom end is different but will work. Compression is lower, pistons are different. Again the 95 block had the different style PCV system that needs to be capped off.
All neaon heads are different and wont work without a lot of modification.
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05-06-2006, 07:06 PM
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+1 for Terry's detailed explanation 
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06-03-2006, 01:25 AM
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what motor and years of jeeps can we use the thottle body from and what has too me modified?
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06-03-2006, 02:34 AM
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4x4 tranny. lol j/k. that would be sweet just to see a GS AWD. the REAL GS-X.lol
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06-03-2006, 08:24 AM
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If you change the brake lines you can use the calipers, brackets and rotors from a 3000gt SL
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06-03-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboXtalon
what motor and years of jeeps can we use the thottle body from and what has too me modified?
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http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
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06-03-2006, 11:58 AM
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