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Old 02-28-2008, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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replacing clutch, flywheel, tob, seals...suggestions? I don't want to do this again

So per my other thread, my tob did go out, despite the fact that I replaced it and the clutch about 1500 miles ago.
So I'm going to replace everything again, including the flywheel this time. I'd like some suggestions so that I do not have to do this again.

I figured with my mods, I would go ahead and get the ACT 2600 kit, along with a lightened flywheel. What is the most trusted/streetable flywheel to go with? Take note this is my daily driver for the winter. I have owned a car with a 2600 in it before and I really didn't mind the feel of it. But I've heard mixed stories about flywheels and their streetability when paired with such a harsh clutch.

For the TOB I will be ordering the stock plastic one from the dealership.

I also figured it would be a good idea to replace the tranny seal.

I will also be putting in a tranny bushing kit while I'm in that area.



Is there anything else any of you recommend I do while I'm in this area? This will be the second time doing this, and I really don't want to have to do it a third time.


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Old 02-28-2008, 08:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd also change the Clutch release fork and Pivot ball.


I had a Fidanza light-weight flywheel paired with a Center Force Dual Friction clutch, it was real grabby but nothing too hard to drive. A few days of driving around and I had it down fairly well.
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The mixed stories about the light flywheels such as the fidanza or act ones are b.s. It'll take some getting use to (obviously) , rev a little higher to start off, but nothing exaggerated or intolerable. Fidanza and Act are pretty reputable flywheels. You might aslo want to consider a scatter shield and the crank seal since it's already there. Also if going with the lighter flywheel you could look into using the automatic spacer with longer flywheel bolts ( such as the fp kit ). Maybe even a ss clutch line.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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And while to hot half of the stuff out you could get the prothane motor mounts that you were wanting. They are also a bitch to put in you'll need a saws all, vice, hammer, some flat head screw drivers
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Newbie question, what is the purpose of an automatic spacer? A scatter shield may be a good idea. I will definitely replace the clutch fork, pivot ball, and crank seal. I will look into an SS clutch line as well.

As for the prothane mounts Chris, I was getting them for my Cobalt, not the Talon. I don't see how they would help that much on an AWD car. You getting them for yours?


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Yep got then and from the time I started putting the inserts in to the time the motor was in it took me about 4 or 5 hours. Most of it I was putting the motor in and looking back on it I wish I had down it a little different to maybe speed up the time, but maybe I'll remember it when I'm putting the build motor in this summer.
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eBay Motors: Eclipse Turbo New Aluminum Flywheel 7-bolt AWD DSM 4g63 (item 130200893557 end time Mar-01-08 21:25:35 PST)

Anyone think this is an ok flywheel?


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Another question...is this the TOB that is the plastic OEM one?

OEM Clutch Throwout Bearing

Also, is it a good idea to use new flywheel bolts when taking the flywheel off?

Should I replace both my master and slave cylinders while I'm at it?

Would a slave cylinder extension rod be a good insurance policy to get as well?


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Another question...is this the TOB that is the plastic OEM one?

OEM Clutch Throwout Bearing
Yup. Mitsu part number is MD749998.

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Also, is it a good idea to use new flywheel bolts when taking the flywheel off?
Yup. MD302074 (x7)

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Should I replace both my master and slave cylinders while I'm at it?
Might as well if you have the money.
Master - MB555133
Slave - MD733623

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Would a slave cylinder extension rod be a good insurance policy to get as well?
Nope. That's a band-aid fix for clutch problems. There are explanations on the forums that go into detail why it's not a good idea to use them.


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Ok, thank you. Anyone have input on the flywheel I linked from Ebay?


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Newbie question, what is the purpose of an automatic spacer?
Here you can read this article Forced Performance: DSM Aluminum Flywheel Hardware Kit
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Is there anything else any of you recommend I do while I'm in this area?
Absolutely, positively get your clutch and lightened flywheel balanced together! If not you may get a very annoying resonance on decel. It's become a common thing but can be avoided.

Read this thread New fidanza and 6 puck, now having noise and vibration

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