2g AWD front drivers axle length problem...

[absolute_DSM]

Well Ive looked through a couple of threads and checked out CAPS, but I must be missing something.


Background - I swapped automatic to 5 speed along with the 6 bolt swap. The front axle/carrier axle combo Im trying to use is supposedly out of a 5 speed 95 GSX with ABS (because I was aware that the automatic and 5 speed carrier axles were different length).

Problem - It is about 2 inches too long. The hub/spindle is visibly being pushed out. The carrier axle is not too long (I dont think, it will bolt up) but from the CV joint (bolted to the block) to the hub, it seems too long.

Ive looked into CAPS and found 2 part numbers for the axle Im tryin to figure out:
MR145595 seems to be the one without ABS, and
MR145597 seems to be the one with ABS.

Question - Im wondering, is there really 2 different length drivers axles, or am I missing something very simple?

 

[Afroclipse]

When I did mine I had to switch the carrier bearing thngy from my automatic to a 5 speed, the auto is about 1inch longer, yet I used my auto driver side axle but had to change my passenger to 5 speed it was to long.

Change carrier bearing to 5 speed but you can keep auto axle
change passenger side.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Well I dont have a problem with the passenger side. Thats all buttoned up along with the rear.

I guess Im not understanding how the 5 speed axle would be longer when Im using a 5 speed tranny.

 

[Afroclipse]

Sorry to ask again I didn't get a sure answer from your post but does the carrier bearing bolt to the block yes or no, if it does then its good if not then well its not. Its good then the problems is your axle but I don't see why it wouldn't work because my auto did.

 

[Afroclipse]

Wait a minute I remember when I installed mine I had that problem still and I realized that the axle didn't go in the carrier bearing all the way. So I had to remove the axle and bearing and hammer the axle into the bearing so it would fit just like you would a virgin and install it as one people instead of seperate.

 

[absolute_DSM]

The carrier axle is not too long (I dont think, it will bolt up)

It bolts up fine.

Im not seeing why the 5 speed combo will not work. I have the 5 speed trans, the axle is pushed all the way into the tranny, yet the outer axle is just too long. I never seperated the 2.

Also, the auto axle is destroyed. I had to torch it out of the spindle along with the hub. I may see if I have it still in the scrap pile to check the length.

 

[Afroclipse]

The axle is the problem, I think you have two passenger axles instead of one. the one in the bearing can only be the passenger one because no other would fit( I think). Too bad the passenger side is buttoned down already or you could compare, either way the axle is the problem.

 

[absolute_DSM]

I know the axle is the problem somehow. The axles came from a running, driving car that was parted out so I know they were installed with no problem in a 95 5 speed GSX.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Well this might just suck. Best word for the situation.

Found this a while back on the Link forums and just now while cleaning up the HD of the computer I reread it....

"THE PASSENGER SIDE AXLE is different. About 3/4" of a inch shorter then its manual counterpart.
ALSO the Intermediate shaft is 3/4" of a longer then its Manual counterpart.
The DRIVERS side AXLE is still the same."

I really hope I still have the old axles in the scrap pile. I can put a couple together and get this to work...

 

[Afroclipse]

I swear thats one of the first things I said.

 

[absolute_DSM]

I swear thats one of the first things I said.

I know you did, but in this situation I was looking for an answer as to why the axle is too long OR in better terms, why is the 5 speed and auto axle different lengths? The obvious is they are different lengths, I know that, but I want to know why.

 

[Afroclipse]

It could be that input shaft on the auto tranny is deeper in than the manual or more simply the trannys are different shapes and axles need to compensate.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Well now when I read my post 9 again, the axle Im trying to use should be the exact same as the one that was scrapped (just called the gpa and its gone).

Im gonna go look at it again. Ive got to be missing something simple.

 

[My96AWD]

the intermediate shaft is different 91-96 then 97-99. 91-96 it bolts through the ac bracket to the block in 97-99 it bolts to the ac bracket. you can use a 91-96 on a 97-99 but you must also use the ac bracket from the same.