450 Horses, and Nitros. 10's?

[miedosoracing]

If that is my goal, do you think I'll make it with 450 Horses to the wheels, Talon AWD and with a 50 Horsepower shot of Nitros. Basically 500 in total. Just curious if Im on the right track. Thanks

 

[MrPikolo]

Hmm, sorta on the right track. If I were you, I'd think of the way to reliably make those 450 horses. A lot of work and a lot of money.

Use this http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/

I'd think if you can drive, those 450 horses should push ya close to the tens, without nitros. If you have the money and work ambition to do it. Go for it.

You will most likly spend more than what is listed in the tunning guide. You will find more and more stuff to fix/improve as you work on your car.

 

[miedosoracing]

Yeah, I know its gonna be a lot of money, but I am not worried so much about that. (paylessinsurance.org) I am going to have CTC motorsports build it for me. I just wanted to make sure that is all the horsepower I am gonna need. I want it to be somewhat driveable as well, so that is why i didn't want to go much higher that 450. I figured that is when the nitros will come in. I plan on normally running it at a comfortable 7ish PSI and when I go to the races, put it to 19-20 PSI. I am gonna be one of the only Automatic tranny drivers around here. I appreciate the help, and I will have it started by summer. Sounds like a long time, but the house comes first via(my wife.)Thanks again.

P.S. I know driving usually has a lot to do with quarter mile, but first I use to drag race my 1992 gixxer 750, 11.0 at 118. So I am familiar with the track, but best of all, I won't be shifting. Like I said, CTC is gonna have my tranny and Hi-stall converter built to handle the power.
Just give it the gas baby!!

 

[1TuffRS]

Originally posted by miedosoracing
I plan on normally running it at a comfortable 7ish PSI and when I go to the races, put it to 19-20 PSI.

7ish psi?? Thats lower than stock, atleast run the stock boost levels man

 

[miedosoracing]

I just found a site that has some Auto trans DSM's. Pretty impressive, looks like It can be done. Look at the 60 foot runs, not too bad. http://users.erols.com/rcoxe/fastest.htm

 

[2gTurboS]

I think you need to do some reading. DSM.org and VFAQ.com are your friends. You want to run 10's but you don't even know what proper boost levels to run. I am not trying to be a dick but you obviously don't know DSM's to well so read up and learn.

ps- It's N20 or Nitrous. not "Nitros"

 

[TRMotorsports]

Thanks corey for the spelling correction that was starting to bug me.

 

[miedosoracing]

you are right, i don't know how to build it, that is why it will all be done for me $$$. I don't know the proper boost levels either, that will all be set up for me. Although the reason for very low boost for normal driving is simple. Racing for money, when someone rides in my car, and I slam the throttle and its not real fast. Its nice having money, but winning it is even better. Anyways, CTC is very well known, and builds a lot of fast cars. Thanks on the spelling, (Nitrous) you are definitely right. I wish people would catch all the other spelling people do on this site, schooling i guess. Ha ha. Anyways, All I wanted to know is if the times (1/4 mile) would be there, not all the additional stuff, Ill leave that up to CTC. I will just drive. thanks

 

[quickersol]

i think if you plan to have a 10 second dsm you will need to know EVERYTHING about how your car works. you'll constantly need to tune for different track conditions, weather, you'll need to fix alot of broken parts, etc. its not as simple as laying down the cash and having them build you a 450whp car. have you ever ridden in a 10 second car? i'm not to sure you understand how fast and dangerous that is going down the track at 140mph without proper experience. you have to take in to consideration traction, suspension, driving technique, and more. it doesn't matter if you have money it still won't save your car from slamming the wall at 140mph. if i were you i would start your goal simple, first try building and driving a 12 second car, then after you master that try busting into the 11's. baby steps man, there are people WITH money that have extensive knowlage of dsms and have been in the game for years and are still working on 10's. this is just my opinion.

 

[miedosoracing]

I totally understand what you are saying, but here is my knowledge. I hold a AMA Pro lic in Motocross. Again ran my GSXR every week at the strip,(11 sec) and was known well enough that ran other peoples bikes for them, because they sucked. I grew up with Camaros, and my 70 Z28 that I had ran 12.3. So I know all you guys are thinking I don't know crap, but I just don't know about the DSM's. I can build you a motorcycle motor that will run low 9's all day long. I was a mechanic at Hobarts Cycle in IL all the way through college. I again, just don't know DSM's. Tuning, definitely is gonna be a learning experience for me. I know carbs very very well, but not all this data shit. I will learn, and Im sure pay alot fixing it. But it will only be a weekend car. Again Again, I just was interested in the times in the quarter everyone. I will take care of everything else. Thanks

 

[quickersol]

so if i told you i was going to have a shop build me a 7 second bike without me having any knowlage of bikes at all (mechanical or driving)do you think i could do it? sounds like you have a pretty good base knowlage of mechanical know how to start, just keep researching and learning all you can and 10's may not be out of reach.

 

[pneumo]

According to the HP calculator at www.DSM.org/tools/calchp.htm
a 3000 pound car with driver should take about 458 HP to go 10.9 at 125 MPH. That assumes you'll take about 300 pounds out of a AWD car, and that you're somewhere near an average persons weight.

 

[starion4g63]

do you think this setup with nazz will get me in the 10's

 

[miedosoracing]

There's one in every batch. (smart__) can the moderator lock this thread, pneumo answered my question finally, which I really appreciate. That is all I was asking for. All the abilities to drive, or build the car could have been avoided. It boggles my mind how people think that driving an AWD automatic car that will do 10 sec quarter miles is tough, but that is their opinion. Comparing it to riding a bike at the same speed is totally different. I've been going to the drag strip with cars and bikes for about 15 years. Anyways, again, if the moderator could lock this thread because the answer was given, I would definitely appreciate it. Thanks

 

[starion4g63]

450hp at the wheels will get you in the 10's with a good drive and in a car thats lighter then 3k.You dont need to spray it to get there but it will take 25+psi to get there.Just go by the setups that have made those numbers and go by that.Dsm's have bin street driven with tons of power for years,all the info and products are there you just need to read all the post and pick your flavor and or shop.Dont listen to all the bs bench racers take it from those that have bin 10's or better(me I only have bin ??????)street racing.I built my car and tuned it all bark yard stuff I even built my own trans thanks to the help of others on here(ginny pigs).

Time to make some money.any takers its just a laser.

 

[gimmie11s]

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