300gt vs GST who would win?

[stuffy1256]

My brother has a 1g base model 3kgt w/ a MT and i have a 96 GST w/ an AT. I told some of my friends that in a race i would be able to keep up with him. He comes up to me and is all "i could smoke you i have 12 more hp than you and i can launch and you cant and you weight as much as i do and you have really bad turbo lag and i would just smoke you!" Right now i would smoke his car cuz his is in the shop who do you think would win? Dont we weight less than a 3kgt? he would probably win but i dont think by that much...thanks

 

[candela]

If you were both none stock and you got a decent launch you will win...

 

[stuffy1256]

all he has is a flowmaster exhaust. Hopefully ill be able to beat him...and make him eat his words!

 

[InferiorWang]

the base model 3kgt's arent very fast. you should be able to take him or at least keep up. If it was a TT and yall were both stock he would beat you by about a second in the 1/4, but since it isnt you should be fine. And I do believe that we are lighter than a 3kgt. You could look it up on carpoint.msn.com if you felt like putting the effort into it. That's why there arent a lot of really fast stealth's and 3kgt's. They are too heavy and the aftermarket parts are expensive.

 

[oosoosloo]

i vote for gst

 

[90LaserTurbo89k]

Agreed...the 3000GT N/A is only 8.2 0-60 stock with a MT. My best friend has a 94 3000GT and I whip the p*ss out of him, my car is stock, I just bought it 3 weeks ago. Mines an FWD also, for those interested.

 

[3s94]

im gonna hafta wave the BS flag on that one. a 94 base model is the 2g 3s. it has a 222 hp DOHC. the 1Gs (base) had 167hp SOHC. when my car was stock, i ran with a friends 98 GSX. of course he ripped me off the line but i would reel him in after the launch. from a 20 and a 40 roll i would slowly pull from him every single time. btw base and SL 3000s weigh approx 3200 lbs. vr4s weigh 3700.

 

[MARCUSMARC]

I walked a base 3000gt pretty bad on the highway the other day, and all i have is an intake....

 

[3s94]

91-93 3000GT bases have 167 hp SOHC. 94-96 base models have 222 hp DOHC and 97-99 base models have yet again 167 hp SOHC. its screwed up.

 

[MARCUSMARC]

Originally posted by 3s94
91-93 3000GT bases have 167 hp SOHC. 94-96 base models have 222 hp DOHC and 97-99 base models have yet again 167 hp SOHC. its screwed up.

That is really stupid.....for the price of what they used to cost new it seems like they would be more powerful..

 

[PimpBlackTalon]

Originally posted by MARCUSMARC


That is really stupid.....for the price of what they used to cost new it seems like they would be more powerful..

Those stats are for the non-turbo base models. The VR-4's are bi-turbo v6's with considerably more power -- not to mention AWD. Why anyone would buy the base model is beyond me.. Probably the same people who would buy a v6 sCamaro, v6 Rustang, or even a convertible Corvette!!! HAHA

 

[PsSsShTGSX]

Originally posted by PimpBlackTalon


Those stats are for the non-turbo base models. The VR-4's are bi-turbo v6's with considerably more power -- not to mention AWD. Why anyone would buy the base model is beyond me.. Probably the same people who would buy a v6 sCamaro, v6 Rustang, or even a convertible Corvette!!! HAHA

^^^ for the people who wanna look cool and not go fast

 

[stuffy1256]

Originally posted by PimpBlackTalon


Those stats are for the non-turbo base models. The VR-4's are bi-turbo v6's with considerably more power -- not to mention AWD. Why anyone would buy the base model is beyond me.. Probably the same people who would buy a v6 sCamaro, v6 Rustang, or even a convertible Corvette!!! HAHA

or maybe because they are good looking cars? just a thought.... you know not everyone can afford a vr4, so the next best thing for 3kgt/stealth owners IS the base model. And trust me i loved driving my brothers car, although i like driving my turbo AT over his na MT. just for fun i like to rev it up and hear the blow off valve

 

[PsSsShTGSX]

hence i said look cool. it looks nice but ur not gonna go as fast.

 

[Tevenor]

How in the hell do you 'rev it up and hear the blow off valve' when you are so stock you 'haven't even taken the airbox off yet'?

I predict the stock WWD Chicken Coop will beat the NA Tuna Boat.

 

[stuffy1256]

Originally posted by Tevenor
How in the hell do you 'rev it up and hear the blow off valve' when you are so stock you 'haven't even taken the airbox off yet'?

i meant while driving ill punch the gas, let tyhe turbo spool for a sec and let off, and yes you can hear my blow off valve when i do that.

 

[chris92]

"91-93 3000GT bases have 167 hp SOHC. 94-96 base models have 222 hp DOHC and 97-99 base models have yet again 167 hp SOHC. its screwed up."

NO no no... its screwed up but this is how it works fellows. 100% fact.
91 -96 3KGT (Base and SL) have 222hp
91 -96 Stealths (Base) 167hp but (ES and RT NA) have 222. Died in 96.
97 - 99 3KGT have 167 in base, 222 in SL, and 320 in VR4 Died in 99.
94 ofcorse the VR4's and TT Stealths all got a boost raise and went from 300 to 320hp.

The reason for all of this is Dodge wanted a really cheap base and asked Mits. for a SOHC version of the engine. After the Stealths died in 96, the 3000's unfortinatly got this weak ass motor in all the base models to try and lower cost and cause more people to buy the SL and VR4. Also ive heard after 96 the DOHC NA motors (SL) lost 4hp went to 218 in the slush boxes (Dont know for sure on that.)

If u check my pics you can see two of my very good friends cars a 95 3000gt SL auto with intake, which i smoke the hell out of, and a 93 stealth ES 5 spd w/ intake and excuast, which i cleanly beat from any speed. Espically when were both moving. I think u will win!

 

[streetraceboi]

i raced a 3000gt in my 90 gst and it was a pretty good race, i am not to sure what year it was though, i know it was an sl. we both got a good launch and we were head to head the whole way, but i eventually took him by a fender. i was suprised that it was that close of a race. my car was all stock and so what his. so i think you should take him without hardly trying

 

[Tallen]

his et should be about 15.4 (being generous), and you are around 15.1...you=win him=lose

 

[chris92]

15.4 for an stock sl? thats being very generous even for a 5 speed.

 

[stuffy1256]

but my brothers car is a base model which is slightly lighter... and arnt at mid to high 15's?

 

[echo]

so have you raised him yet? it's been like a month since the beggining of this post............

 

[stuffy1256]

his car is in the shop...AGAIN.... because he got bad synchros..... well race as soon as its out and as soon as i get my engine mounts fixed... theyre a little loose... but yeah ill keep ya posted on who wins...