Two Mustang Kills

[KPWSerpiente]

This is the first kill story I've ever posted so don't be too hard on me.

First kill is at the track, MIR and against a blue Mustang Mach 1. I don't know its mods but I expect it was pretty stock.

Sitting at the tree I'm looking over and he is dialing in a 14.10 whereas I'm dialing in a 13.89 so I know he'll get a little head start as well as .4 seconds just from his RWD launch to my FWD.
I launched on his tree to try and cut my reaction time down (I was pulling .3's prior to this run so I knew I needed to step it up) and out the hole he is a few cars lenghts ahead (.3 second advantage at the 60 foot, I ran a 2.4xx)
Im launching hard, hopping and I hit the shift into second, still spinning, shift into 3rd, these are all power shifts because of the no lift to shift feature in dsmlink, and by the 1/8 mile I'm literally flying past him.
He is 1/10 of a second behind but trapping 7 mph less at the 1/8. I'm waving as I go by, run out 3rd and shift into 4th.
Cross the line about 6/10's a second ahead of him with a 13.739 @ 109. So yeah, I broke out but it was my best run to date and made me very happy.

Second kill comes on the way home. I'm cruising along at 60 in the far left lane of a 3 lane road when a black Mustang GT pulls onto the road. Loud but nice sound to it. He looked young, couldn't really see because it was dark out, and cut in front of me, then drops a gear and cuts off the middle lane and jumps out ahead of the traffic.
Well after trapping 108 and 109 all day long at the track I decided to see how badly I'd roll a car that traps 9 mph less.
So I follow him out ahead of traffic, fly by and slow it down so he knows I'm there. He drops a gear instantly and takes off, I drop to 2nd at about 55 and burn it too bad to keep up. So I repeat, catch up, fly by, slow down.
And once again he drops it. But this time I drop into 3rd at about 60 and proceed to walk him so hard that by the time I'm at 4th gear he has backed off. He then ducks into the right lane and pulls off the road.
Guess I ruined his night. Oh well. I really love how the new mustangs look and wouldn't mind owning one, but too many people who drive them think they are in something too fast for a 4 cylinder.

Now in fall fairness, I just looked over my timeslips again and realized that my very first run was a loss to a Mustang GT. He went 13.1 @ 106 to my 13.9 @ 108. He had traction and some power, and from a roll I might even have a hard time keeping up. So I guess I went 2-1 against the Mustangs that night.

-T

 

[NosLaser]

Doesn't sound like you would have much trouble with any of the cars you raced from a roll. The guy in the Mach 1 needs to learn how to drive! Dialing in a 14.1?? Those cars go in the 13.30's with a good driver all day long. Either way, good kills.

Regards,

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

I think in the real world 13.3s would be pushing it a little, but imagine the old cobras with a ram air shaker hood. It shouldnt matter if you are running 13.7 then either iof those stangs should be easy from a roll....the only one I see you having trouble with is the new svt which usually trap at about what you are trapping now.
Andrew

 

[KPWSerpiente]

NOSLaser, where does the 13.3 come from? I've read online stock 14.0 and I saw no Mach1 running faster than that...there were at least 3 there that night. I'm sure with some better tires they might be able to pull a good mid 13 or so but I really don't know a whole lot about them.

-T

 

[Violater101]

NOSLaser, where does the 13.3 come from? I've read online stock 14.0 and I saw no Mach1 running faster than that...there were at least 3 there that night. I'm sure with some better tires they might be able to pull a good mid 13 or so but I really don't know a whole lot about them.

-T

Those cars make around 280 to the wheels stock. With a good driver and sticky tires, there is no reason they shouldn't be running around a 13.3 and a mph regardless of around 106 to 107. Don't always believe everything you read in magazines

 

[KPWSerpiente]

^?? Ok, but when the "magazine" (I read this online not in a magazine) says 14.0 and I see 3 Mach 1's running consistant 14.0-14.2 at about 102 I can only assume that is what they run. I guess it was just a coincidence that that is how all three were driven.

-T

 

[92awddsm]

Those times look real to me. My 99gt auto ran 14.2 stock, 13.40 now with mods and when at the track, I see lots of mach 1's running anywhere from 13.00 to 13.70. Depends on the driver as to how fast they are.

 

[NosLaser]

Those cars make around 280 to the wheels stock. With a good driver and sticky tires, there is no reason they shouldn't be running around a 13.3 and a mph regardless of around 106 to 107. Don't always believe everything you read in magazines

Those cars typically dyno over 300 RWHP. A lot of people mistake and think they have the same Cobra motor as in the 99-02's. The motor is based off that, but is actually quite different, and makes a good bit more power. The Mach 1's and the Z28 SS's with the LS-1 are pretty close to a dead heat. Both have gotten into the high 12's at 108+ with a very good driver under good conditions. Most capable drivers will run low 13's. As with any car, you'll always have the meathead that can't break low 14's with a car that could run 12's.

Regards,

 

[Nos~4G63]

Those cars typically dyno over 300 RWHP. A lot of people mistake and think they have the same Cobra motor as in the 99-02's. The motor is based off that, but is actually quite different, and makes a good bit more power. The Mach 1's and the Z28 SS's with the LS-1 are pretty close to a dead heat. Both have gotten into the high 12's at 108+ with a very good driver under good conditions. Most capable drivers will run low 13's. As with any car, you'll always have the meathead that can't break low 14's with a car that could run 12's.
Regards,

Never thought I would see the day when Aslan was sticking up for the V8 guys. I agree with you to an extent but I can't see how the mach1 is capable of 108mph stock, isn't that what the stock 03 Cobra's are running?

 

[NosLaser]

Never thought I would see the day when Aslan was sticking up for the V8 guys. I agree with you to an extent but I can't see how the mach1 is capable of 108mph stock, isn't that what the stock 03 Cobra's are running?

Maybe an 03 Cobra on square wheels driven by Helen Keller. I typically see 113-114 out of the stock '03 Cobras. The Cobras make like 380 to the wheels.

Regards,

 

[Nos~4G63]

Maybe an 03 Cobra on square wheels driven by Helen Keller. I typically see 113-114 out of the stock '03 Cobras. The Cobras make like 380 to the wheels.
Regards,

I am not a mustang guy so I am going to take your word on it, damn I knew they were fast but 113-114 traps stock! I thought they were more like 108-110.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

Those cars typically dyno over 300 RWHP. A lot of people mistake and think they have the same Cobra motor as in the 99-02's. The motor is based off that, but is actually quite different, and makes a good bit more power. The Mach 1's and the Z28 SS's with the LS-1 are pretty close to a dead heat. Both have gotten into the high 12's at 108+ with a very good driver under good conditions. Most capable drivers will run low 13's. As with any car, you'll always have the meathead that can't break low 14's with a car that could run 12's.

Regards,

Like I said before...a dohc romeo 4.6 with a ram air setup. Kinda like a ram air comaro vs a regular comaro. And about the times people have claimed 14.0 in stock gt's(the new 03s), but in all reality they run low-mid 14s in the quarter. Its all in the driver...
Andrew

ps. It is the same 4.6 romeo in the 99 and later cobras with a little more power i.e better tune and ram air....kinda like the bullit stang is just a tweaked gt sohc romeo 4.6l.

 

[BD1]

Like I said before...a dohc romeo 4.6 with a ram air setup. Kinda like a ram air comaro vs a regular comaro. And about the times people have claimed 14.0 in stock gt's(the new 03s), but in all reality they run low-mid 14s in the quarter. Its all in the driver...
Andrew

ps. It is the same 4.6 romeo in the 99 and later cobras with a little more power i.e better tune and ram air....kinda like the bullit stang is just a tweaked gt sohc romeo 4.6l.

CAMARO. CAMARO. Not Comaro or Camero! God it was around for 35 years!

Anyways the popular belief is that newer Mach 1s can break into high 12s with good DRs only, people have proved it too. I say you raced a very bad driver. Kills none the less tho

 

[ldstang50]

the fastest i've seen the new mach 1's go on paper is 13.5 at 104. the ram air induction solves the biggest problem with the modular motors....no air. i just read up on them after some of the posts, for some reason i thought they were putting out 280hp not 305, but nos is right they are 305hp. that torque number of 320 is awesome