Fwd turbo upgrade

[boostmaster123]

alright well i have basically all the supporting mods for a new turbo but im having trouble figuring out which one to get. a local DSM shop called ams has two turbos that i am trying to decide between. on of them is a bolt on GT with three different trims available 50, 60, and 61 all trims cost 995.00 for non ball bearing. then they also have the new EVO 3 big 16g for 625.00. i like both turbos but my question is which one would be best for a FWD? i like the evo because it has fast spool up but that would be a big traction problem. this is why i like the GT because it doesnt spool up as fast so i can get some traction off the line. if anyone has some insight please reply.

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[VRMAN]

Unfamiliar with any "GT" turbos. A 50 trim is a good FWD turbo. Spool is normally like around 3500-3700 rpms, little laggy to get traction but not too much. A 60 and 62 trim is a BIG turbo that wouldn't be good for daily driving too much, and you willl definately need big injectors.


I would say the 50 trim would sound right.

 

[Laser0385]

Out of your list of choices I would go with the 50 trim.

Have you considered looking for a slightly used 20g? You could probably pick one up fairly cheap and that would be a good street/strip turbo.

SBR 20g

Jake

 

[boostmaster123]

as a matter of fact i did look at the 20g but i have one question. is there an intall kit needed for the 20g. i liked the turbos from AMS because they were bolt ons.

 

[Laser0385]

Originally posted by boostmaster123
is there an intall kit needed for the 20g. i liked the turbos from AMS because they were bolt ons.

I don't know about 2G's but my 20g was a direct bolt on affair.

I would just check around on here and see if it's needed for a 20g install.

Jake

 

[Powerboarder]

I also have a FWD, and I'm going with a Garret t3/t4 57 trim.

 

[MiNiONTSI]

I'm going to go 50 trim myself, I was thinking about 56 trim but it spools a LOT later than the 50.

 

[boostmaster123]

after some thought i decided that i too am going to probably go with the 50 trim bolt on and some really sticky tires because even if it doesnt spool really soon as soon as it does i have a feeling its gonna be pandamonium.

 

[MiNiONTSI]

Originally posted by boostmaster123
after some thought i decided that i too am going to probably go with the 50 trim bolt on and some really sticky tires because even if it doesnt spool really soon as soon as it does i have a feeling its gonna be pandamonium.

Wheelspin really isn't all that bad w/ a larger turbo. Even though you are making a LOT more power you get it in a different way.

With turbos such as a 14b and 16g, when you reach full boost, the torque hit is amazing. If you look at a dyno pull, the two turbos will hit full boost and make a almost as much torque as they can and then the torque and power will fall off near redline.

50trim and 56trim turbocharges make thier power more linearally. They make a lot of power up top and not as much down low. Wheelspin really isn't all that bad with them.

 

[Powerboarder]

True True. This is why I've decided on the 57 trim with my FWD. I think it'll help off the line. Of course either way the fine print would say "driver skill required"

 

[Groomz]

The SBR 2g20G is a bolt in turbo for the 2G cars. www.slowboyracing.com

I would recommend it for the same reasons about traction. I want to make as much power up high and run a low boost in 1st and 2nd to avoid losing traction.

 

[TwoLiterV8Eater]

The 50 trim compressor is by far the best choice for a 2 liter motor like ours. Plenty of power and its more linear than a 20g. You know all those fast guys running the FP Green Model turbo? Its a 50 trim.

 

[MiNiONTSI]

Originally posted by TwoLiterV8Eater
The 50 trim compressor is by far the best choice for a 2 liter motor like ours. Plenty of power and its more linear than a 20g. You know all those fast guys running the FP Green Model turbo? Its a 50 trim.

The green is a little different than the pte turbo that most people are referring to though. The green has an intake/exhaust wheel combo that is just proven to work.

 

[TwoLiterV8Eater]

I was only talking about the compressor trim, which is basically WHY the green is proven to work.

 

[boostmaster123]

well with the 50 trim would you recommend a 2100 or 2600 because my clutch is on its way out the door and i would have ended up upgradeing down the road.(sorry to change the subject)

 

[MiNiONTSI]

2600, the 2100 will be toasty after a short time with the 50 trim. The 50 trim makes a lot of torque.

 

[boostmaster123]

isnt the 2600 a really rough clutch for daily driving. because im basically going to be street and every once in a while strip driving.

 

[TwoLiterV8Eater]

I have a 2600 and it is not bad at all for daily driving. You may think it is the first time you press down on the clutch pedal but after about 10 minutes it feels normal and you won't be able to drive anyone elses car without shoving your foot through the firewall everytime you press the clutch. Get one and be done with it

 

[boostmaster123]

you have a very good point..while im at it i might as well get a strong dependable clutch than get a somewhat strong clutch and learn the hard way. the only other questions i have about that clutch is doesnt it increase your chances of getting crankwalk? another thing i was told about it is that if you have it on a fwd car you wont be able to stop spinning the tires..has that been the case from your experience with it?

 

[MiNiONTSI]

Wheelspin will be exactly the same as with any other clutch, you just need to learn when and how to release it.

 

[boostmaster123]

alrighty sounds good...thanks to everyone that replied