2.3l Stroker kit

[BlackViper]

I was just wondering how many people have 2.3l stroker kits on their dms's. After a couple months I want to swap my 7bolt for a 6 and get a stroker kit for it. That'll teach crankwalk to pick on my Talon Also for you lucky people with stroker kits how is the turbo lag with that extra torque? Thx all.




BlackViper

 

[allwheelTSI]

forget the stroker,if you're gonna buy a crank, rods, and pistons anyway just go full '64. better setup,people may think i'm wrong.. but the 2.3 stroker is such a waste of money,when for a couple more dollars you can use the whole engine and it'll be more reliable.

 

[Wilsonman02]

This may sound corny, but the only reason i'm doing the 2.3l stroker is cause i WANT to have the 4G63 in my car instead of the 64. Call me wierd but thats why i'm doing it instead of gettin the 2.4

 

[Suparata]

Originally posted by allwheelTSI
forget the stroker,if you're gonna buy a crank, rods, and pistons anyway just go full '64. better setup,people may think i'm wrong.. but the 2.3 stroker is such a waste of money,when for a couple more dollars you can use the whole engine and it'll be more reliable.

Would you be so kind to elaborate and tell us why do you think a "full '64" is going to be more reliable?

 

[talonted_one]

because there arent many people knowledgeable enough to educate the general public about this engine.

 

[GrocMax]

Originally posted by allwheelTSI
forget the stroker,if you're gonna buy a crank, rods, and pistons anyway just go full '64. better setup,people may think i'm wrong.. but the 2.3 stroker is such a waste of money,when for a couple more dollars you can use the whole engine and it'll be more reliable.

How many Mits engines have you built and placed in the right hands in the right applications that enables you to make blanket statements like that?

 

[Rick@AP]

Originally posted by allwheelTSI
forget the stroker,if you're gonna buy a crank, rods, and pistons anyway just go full '64. better setup,people may think i'm wrong.. but the 2.3 stroker is such a waste of money,when for a couple more dollars you can use the whole engine and it'll be more reliable.

Everyone got to him first. Is there any meat left of the carcass for me?

The reliabilty of either engine comes down to the builder and the parts used not the engine.

Also, if you've every built a 4g64 with a 4g63 head you'll know that in order to do it correctly its going to cost you more than the 2.3l stroker and requires more detail on the part of the builder to get it right and not end up blowing oil all over the place.

You should rethink your statement....

 

[allwheelTSI]

sorry i never saw that i was being replied to here,big deal you have to plug a few oil return holes in the head,not rocket science. and as far as reliability goes,this has been gone over plenty of times,and even some of the best tuners and wisemen on the board will tell you that the rod angles on the stroker are a bit extreme. the motor might be alright for say 350-400hp,but lets face it, if you're putting that kindof money into your motor anyway(you will probably be wanting to make big numbers),can you afford to risk snapping a connecting rod? this has nothing to do with any proven facts its just my personal opinion.

 

[Rick@AP]

Originally posted by allwheelTSI
this has nothing to do with any proven facts its just my personal opinion.

This sums it up perfectly.

Here are the facts:

There are some guys, who feel just like you do, that go out and try to plug a few unimportant oil holes, at least thats what they think at least, then they end up leaking. That's when they call me at some ungodly hour saying I'm stuck somewhere because I'm loosing oil pressure and I can't figure out where. Come to find out that JB welb and a metal plug doesn't work very well. (can you tell I'm speaking out of personal experience here?)

I have built more 4g63's than I care to remember and several of them were strokers. Many of those motors are still running today and serving there users quite well. Most are putting out well over 350hp without breathing hard. So it is with the utmost authority that I can say, in the words of Biggie Smalls, F' what you heard. Rod ratios, rod angularity, etc. when talking about a 2.3l stroker doesn't mean jack. I've built them I know. Others have built them as far back as when everyone was on the Talon Digest. I've yet to see any one of those nay sayers come up with any soild proof on which to base there claim, its all theory. If you are that concerned about rod lenghts or angles there are things you can do to help but there isn't a real need for it. Would I build a 2.3 over a 2.4...maybe, its a complete toss up and the only reason for that is that I am completely confident in my skills to be able to build something that will hold regardless of the HP.

One more time emphatically, it all comes down to the machinist, the builder and the parts, regardless of what engine set up.