Next mod step for autocross???

[husterka]

I am preparing to work on my 99 GSX (auto) this winter and I am undecided on what I want to buy next to set it up for autocross. I will have about $1500 to spend and I can do most install work myself (except internals and tranny work)...

Current Mods:
Greddy upper and lower IC piping
Greddy types BOV
Dejon tool intake
Apexi auto timer
Front and rear strut tower bars
Tokico shocks
Neuspeed lowering springs
Adjustable camber kit


Here are my three choices for next mods:

1. Extreme turbo stage 1 package (3" stainless o2 eliminator, walbro 255, and intake pipe which I would sell to help pay for a header). Any suggestions on a good header / manifold???

2. Ported FPBig28, 650CC injectors, DSMLink

3. Level10 PTS kit, PTS torque converter, PTS Shiftronic (pushbutton shifter + transmission controller)

My goal is to end up with around 300whp that is still a great daily driver (gets decent gas mileage). I am not real big on drag racing so I don't need a huge turbo but I want to have the power available when all those mustang and firebird guys want to have some fun on the highway.

 

[1LE]

"2"

 

[husterka]

Thanks for the response... If I went with mod #2 are there any other supporting mods that I should look at also doing (porting, fuel pump, fpr, lines, etc...)

Any other comments would be greatly appreciated!

 

[1LE]

fuel pump might not be a bad idea, and if you do that, you want an AFPR. Lines of every kind are always nice, but if you're on a budget, there are usually better ways to spend your money. Porting is nice too, but expensive. I guess #2 is my choice as that turbo will probably suit your needs perfectly and you can then find the weak points with that setup and upgrade as you go (build the car around the turbo).

 

[husterka]

Thanks for the help man. I am going to put together a parts list ASAP and post it to see if I missed anything. I have a local shop that is willing to do porting work at a good price so I am not too worried about paying for porting.

What are your thoughts on porting the 2G exhaust manifold? Should I only port the collector or should I also port the runners to match the head? I have heard opinions for both sides... Some people say to only port the collector so you keep runner air velocity up and others say port everything to provide max volumetric flow rate. I am at a loss as to which is better because both have their up and down sides.

 

[igs]

None of that will help you with autocross.

 

[LandoAWD]

igs: Your usless drivel pollutes the site. The man asked a legit question with clearly stated options and goals.

husterka: Good choice with #2. The 28 should spool quick enough to meet your needs, but I think a 190lph pump could help out, as would an IC upgrade and exhaust...that T28 might not like the restrictive stock piping. As for porting, I'll let someone else chime in.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by LandoAWD
igs: Your usless drivel pollutes the site. The man asked a legit question with clearly stated options and goals.

LandoAWD:

He asked "Next mod step for autocross???", then listed three power mods. My response was 100% correct. But you wouldn't know that would you? You know nothing about autocross, or cars in general. My friend's 90 hp Civic beat a 330 hp M3 by over 4 seconds this past weekend. You're the one polluting the site with useless drivel.

 

[LandoAWD]

So, you are essentially saying that a faster car will not beat a slower car assuming a driver of equal skill (which was not questioned, nor mentioned by anyone including yourself)?
I have seen a bone stock Cavelier whip a STi, but obviously it was a skill issue.
Feel free to correct me, as well as point out how I know nothing about autocross or cars in general.

Edit: Based on what I have pointed out, please inform me of what useful relevant information you provided in this post.

 

[igs]

He said he wants to prepare his car and set it up for autocross.

You're right that his thread is not about driver skill, so why did you even bring it up? Sounds like more useless drivel coming out of your mouth polluting the site once again.

 

[LandoAWD]

If he is preparing his car for autocross, how would performance mods not help? He also mentioned his goal of

My goal is to end up with around 300whp that is still a great daily driver

which cannot be achieved on a T25...feel free to cite examples of how that could be achieved. Please don't click "submit" more than once, and read our sig rules concering taking up issues with admins/mods/wisemen in your sig.

 

[husterka]

Not that I want to get into the middle of this little war of words but... IGS, you have neither been helpful or harmful to anyone but yourself. If you think that I am heading in the wrong direction, maybe you should point out what you think the right direction is. You could have simply stated that I should spend some of the money on a driving school or better tires or something of that nature.

To get to the point... Please don't make useless posts!!!

Back to the subject at hand... Anybody have any comments about the porting issue??? Also, I have heard that large FMICs are only good with large turbos (is this true???) so should I stick with something like a Supra sidemount?

Thanks!

 

[igs]

Originally posted by LandoAWD

Edit: Based on what I have pointed out, please inform me of what useful relevant information you provided in this post.

Three out of three mods he listed was for power. Given the current mods he already has that is the wrong direction if he wants to set up his car for autocross. I pointed that out with my reply. Correcting someone from going in the wrong direction is very useful and relevant.

 

[LandoAWD]

Originally posted by husterka
If you think that I am heading in the wrong direction, maybe you should point out what you think the right direction is. You could have simply stated that I should spend some of the money on a driving school or better tires or something of that nature.

To get to the point... Please don't make useless posts!!!

Originally posted by igs

Correcting someone from going in the wrong direction is very useful and relevant.

Agreed, but you did not point him in ANY direction.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by LandoAWD
He also mentioned his goal of which cannot be achieved on a T25...feel free to cite examples of how that could be achieved.

Correct. But again my post was telling him he's going in the wrong direction, which again is very relevant and useful.

 

[LandoAWD]

See my above post.

Edit: I'll clean up the bickering in a few mins.

Edit/Edit: Nevermind, this may end up being helpful.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by LandoAWD

Agreed, but you did not point him in ANY direction.

Well, there are only three things you can do with a car. Accelerate, brake and turn. In other words if it's not power mods it's handling mods.

EDIT: I did not give specific mods because there are simply too many he can do, it's really up to him where he wants to start. For example, tires are very important, but his car is also street driven, so he probably won't want to do that. I could go on forever just listing shit. It depends on him. But first he needs to accept power mods won't help him which he still hasn't, so what would be the point of me listing specific handling mods for him anyway?

 

[LandoAWD]

Why not include that in your post then? I see where you are coming from, but understand where I am coming from as well.

 

[husterka]

Ok IGS... You have once again proved your point that you can make multiple posts without ever actually providing any useful information...

Since you think that I should only go with handling mods, please enlighten me with your great wisdom!!! You don't have to give me a detailed list of what I should buy but suggestions are always helpful (that's what the whole DSMtuners community is all about).

 

[LandoAWD]

I apologize for the whoring of your thread, and will not respond furthur, unless it is related to the topic at hand. This should go for everyone in every thread, in fact.

 

[hose101772]

Theres a guy that seems to know what hes talking about when it comes to auto-xing a 2g.Seen him on tv one night.

Here it is.

www.farnorthracing.com

he has a nice list of mods on -The Car.

 

[DSMTurbos]

you still have stock exhuast correct? fix the exhuast issue before you upgrade turbo etc. if your dead set on autox i would buy sway bars and other suspension and brakes (good pads, rotors, and ss lines)

 

[GRNDSM]

husterka,

I would propose #4

A 16G, small or EVO (do not bother with regular "big" one)

I know that spool up will be slightly worse than T28, but IMHO, extra power will make it worth it!

Leon
RR

 

[igs]

Originally posted by husterka

Since you think that I should only go with handling mods, please enlighten me with your great wisdom!!! You don't have to give me a detailed list of what I should buy but suggestions are always helpful (that's what the whole DSMtuners community is all about).

I recommend a new suspension (coilovers), plus sway bars. Here is a good starting point: http://www.wincom.net/trog/autocross/

 

[littlemilla3]

Here's my suggestion (#5).

Small 16g
255 lphfuel pump
550 cc injectors
safc
afpr
turbo back exhaust
supra sidemount
port o2 housing & exhaust manifold

brake pads
ss brake lines

weight reduction (at least the ones you can live with, i.e. jack, spare tire)

It might be over $1500, more like ~$2000, but it will suit your needs very well.