Home made oct boost how too!

[k-nyne]

So im siting in chemistry a while back and my chem teacher was talking about gas prices and how insane they are ect ect. Well out of the blue he was talking about his dads old muscle cars or something but he use to but aviation fuel in the bastard when he figured out, he can mix 87oct with Toulene (100%paint thinner!) and dump auto transmision fluid in it for a bit of lubrication. I was calling bullshit the whole time, I didnt belive it but he happend to have a can of genric octane boost, guess what the main "ingreedent" was. yeah Toulene. But in the more expensive octane boosts the main ingreedent was xylene. Xylene is di-methyl benzene when toulene is methl benzene, the methyl the alchohol is whats burning, so your geting about twice the go juice. Well a standard can of paint thinner with mineral sprits (a cleaing agent...) contains a mix of toulene and xylene. Well here is the magical solution.

This is what the "popular brand" of octaine boost ended up equaling.

for 8 16oz bottles

100 oz of toluene for octane boost (i bought the tolune at sherman wilams for 4 bucks!)
25 oz of mineral spirits (cleaning agent/"fuel injector cleaner!" not required in the mix!)
3 oz of transmission fluid (lubricating agent)

shazam, that will boost you up circa 3.2 points just like octane booster does.... BECAUSE ITS THE SAME THING


ill take pics of the process and picks of me pooring it in my dsm, im not afraid! just rember that f1 cars run on 81% toluene ( I cant site this fact it came from my teachers mouth!) And rember they put it in tanks druing ww2!

 

[thekellbeast]

This is a repost, but go for it!

 

[nine5raptor]

I have run up to 30% of either xylene or toluene (don't do it in the winter, car will be very hard to start ) with good results. Remember also when you look on the commercially available octane booster bottles that 3.2 "octane points" means that it will raise 87octane to 87.32, likewise the ones that say "10 Octane Points!" means 87 to 88.

Check this out. http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html

 

[k-nyne]

huh, didnt know about the octaine rating i was told i could run just about as much of it in my car as i wanted mixed with any gas, huh i think that artical is the same one he printed for me

 

[theTuner]

did u try upping ur boost since ur putting in that octane booster?

 

[PRESSURIZED]

I've used a Gallon of Xylene with like 3 gallons of 94 Sunoco.

I noticed a difference right away, especially when my front tires could not keep traction at ALL in first of second.

it works.

 

[PRESSURIZED]

I've used a Gallon of Xylene with like 3 gallons of 94 Sunoco.

I noticed a difference right away, especially when my front tires could not keep traction at ALL in first of second.

it works.

 

[SportinWood]

crazy, where do u pick this stuff up?
and its not gonna burn anything up?

 

[Keaka26]

you can get xylene or toulene at most paint stores, even home depot (expensive there). Anyways, you dont want to use more than a 30% mixture of xylene/toulene with your gas. This stuff is fairly strong and will eat the $hit out of your seals if you decide you want to use more than 30%.

Ive done it myself, and loved every moment of it.

 

[SportinWood]

nice...
thanx!

 

[Rogue_Ant]

Guys if you run Toulene, don't use Nitrious.

Toulene, is part of a Benzing ring. When you combine toulene with a couple other of its buddies from that same benzing ring. You get something we call trinitrotoluene, or more commonly TNT.

What’s this mean? Well, you already have a somewhat suitable hydrocarbon, gasoline. Now add Toulene. There is two of the three, all we need now is an 'NO' group.... a little nitrous oxide. And now we have what we need to make a chemically unstable compound TNT.

If you want to try it anyway, then thats your prerogative.

Rogue

 

[loreak]

mixing toulene or xylene 30% is pretty well known, its been discussed in GREAT DEPTH many times over

mix it 30% with normal pump gas and add some ATF for lubrication, normal gasoline uses forms of xylene in it

 

[SportinWood]

thats so weird putting ATF in your gas... but i guess it does make sense

 

[hostile]

Originally posted by Rogue_Ant
Guys if you run Toulene, don't use Nitrious.

Toulene, is part of a Benzing ring. When you combine toulene with a couple other of its buddies from that same benzing ring. You get something we call trinitrotoluene, or more commonly TNT.

What’s this mean? Well, you already have a somewhat suitable hydrocarbon, gasoline. Now add Toulene. There is two of the three, all we need now is an 'NO' group.... a little nitrous oxide. And now we have what we need to make a chemically unstable compound TNT.

If you want to try it anyway, then thats your prerogative.

Rogue

I am calling bullshit, because you wouldnt be able to run regular pump gas with nitrous either. Because pumpgas already has high tolulene and benzene in it.

 

[Keaka26]

yeah, I believe toluene is the main octane booster in gasoline.

 

[Rogue_Ant]

Originally posted by hostile


I am calling bullshit, because you wouldnt be able to run regular pump gas with nitrous either. Because pumpgas already has high tolulene and benzene in it.

Pump gas doesn't have anywhere near as much tolulene, as it would if you add 1 gallon to the four gallons in your tank.

2C7 H5 N3 O6

That’s the chemical composition of TNT... if you know anything about chemistry you would see that everything you need, is in your gas tank, with the addition of N2O.

I never said it _will_ make TNT, I just said your making it much easier to happen.

Rogue

 

[NoRiceTSi]

just remember to crank up AC/DC's "TNT" when you drive for the first time with this concoction

 

[owndjoo]

hm...... i should try this in my 103 unleaded race gas, give it a bit more "kick"

and what's the % of ATF to use??

 

[Keaka26]

a cap full...its just used as a buffer...

 

[RossY]

so which should i get, or which is better if either, the toulene or xylene?

 

[Keaka26]

xylene is 117 octane, while toulene is 114. Funny thing in this case is that toulene is better at reducing detonation that xylene, regardless of the lower octane. The reason is because toulene has a higher motor octane (better for use in cars) while xylenes high octane rating comes from a big research octane. Octane is calculated by adding the research octane to the motor oct. and dividing by 2.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by Keaka26
a cap full...its just used as a buffer...

Use 3oz's per gallon, its used for lubrication. Pump gas is already lubricated, using alot of toluene will dilute it so you need to add more.

 

[RossY]

Sooo...if i have three gallons in my gas tank. two of which is pump gas, say 93. and the other gallon is toulene, about what would my octane rating be?

 

[90AWDTalon]

Originally posted by RossY
Sooo...if i have three gallons in my gas tank. two of which is pump gas, say 93. and the other gallon is toulene, about what would my octane rating be?

I came up with 100 octane, I forgot how to do this kind of averageing so I had to reteach myself( I haven't taken a math class in 11 years ). But I think I got it right. I took 2 gallons 93 octane = 186, then 1 gallon toluene( toluene is 114 octane ) = 114. I added these to get 300 then divided by three gallons to come up with 100 octane.

 

[RossY]

someone told me that running 100+ octane or something close to it could damage my cat if i had one, is this true or bs?