just blew my head gasket (if not worse) :(

[nigma]

so here is the story... third gear ~130km/h speed (~81mph nothing special) 22 psi preasure and here it goes... lots of white smoke from exhaust and from engine bay... i stop open the hood and it was like in the moovie just smoke was densier and there where more of it everything was in coolant. it was leaking down on the road...
after it just happened it took me 10-15 seconds to stop and turn off engine. engine did not stop runing it was runing not stable who would when it was flooded with coolant any way there where no strange sound from it so i hope it was just head gasket... it was not metal one so that is not unexpected. i'll take apart engine in 2 days and see what actualy blew but i think it was head gasket... could it be head ? anyone ever heard of blown 63 head ?
anyone ever had blown head gasket ? where there any other damages ?
i just want to know what to expect when i'll take head off
it's just another bad day
respect

 

[jpolizo]

Wow man, sorry to hear about your ride. That sucks.

I had a head gasket go out but it was much less spectacular than yours. Was the car overheating at all before it went?

If the head gasket failed, and you shut it down fast, then you probably didn't hose anything else, though you now have gunk everyplace in the internals. The thing to check, though, is whether it was in fact the gasket as opposed to say the head warping.

My cut, when mine went, was that I might as well fix up the head so I bought a level-1 ported head. If it's time for a valve job, you might want to think about that as I'd at least get the head to a machine shop and have it checked. Might as well do anything else you need then.

The blocks tend to be pretty sturdy, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

Oh, and when you do replace the HG, don't forget those ARP studs!

 

[nigma]

there is now shuch shops that could do valve job or anyting like that where i live car tuning is not popular here. i live in europe i have everything to get from usa... and install it myself (a friend does engine works) so new ported head out of a question it would cost more to ship it here then head itself... i just hope it was not damaged
and the car was not overheating

 

[91TSI505]

Sounds like it could be your turbo.how unstable was the car?How much smoke,was it like a spy hunter smoke screen?And you said it did not overheat,usually blowing a headgasket would cause you to overheat though i do not know how long you drove it after this,pull off your turbo and check it out,it might not have shaft play but check the t-housing for broke fins or no wheel at all.Sorry to here about this and good luck with fixing your problem.

 

[nigma]

turbo should be just fine except that it ws not coolled down after this happened... it took me 10 to 15 seconds to stop right after i've noticed white smoke and bad sound,
opened the hood and turbo was dry... but my firewall and everything under intake manifold was wet in coolant so i'm positive that turbo was not damaged (housing atleast) it might have some burned oil in it now due to the fact that it was not coolled and engine had to be turned off
but it was not coolled down only once so i think turbo will be ok
i'v seen how turbo smokes. it was much more scary now !!!

 

[Scotty4G63]

Yea I had ALMOST the same thing happen to me... But in my case I wasn't running a cold enough spark plugs and the electrode off of one of the spark plugs broke off and cracked the porcelian. I thought I just blew a head gasket, but after I got it apart I saw a crack about 2 mm wide in my head in the same cylinder the spark plug blew up in doesn't take much to figure that one out...

 

[DJ_2Soxx]

I had my HG go on me, but it was the opposite. I was overheating and found that oil was being pushed into water jackets via a ripped HG. That in time destroyed all rubber seals in cooling system, waterpump, rad cap, everything. I upgraded to Fluidyne rad and CoolFlex hoses. Check your cooling system, what is left, and make sure the oil to get blown in to there. Sorry to hear about you prob bro, good luck with everything.

 

[nigma]

so i just got my car to my friends garage.. we first did compression test
it really sux... we got 0 10.5 10.5 and 3 (in bars)
it looks like head bolts and the edge of head stretched or something.
first cylinder looks really bad we don’t know if only head gasket was blown. plug from it looked like it was taken just out of coolant - all wet.
we will take head off today or tomorrow morning and see if there is any other damages

 

[tsi_turboawd]

in my case:

white smoke in exhaust, but none in engine bay.
It came out to be a melted piston on one cylinder.
The heads seems ok and timing ok, and the HG was ok.

 

[nowayout]

Originally posted by tsi_turboawd
in my case:

white smoke in exhaust, but none in engine bay.
It came out to be a melted piston on one cylinder.
The heads seems ok and timing ok, and the HG was ok.

I took out piston 2 and 3 when I had white smoke. A little too much boost.

 

[QuickerDSM]

That sounds just like when my HG blew about 3 weeks ago. There was coolant all over the backside of the engine compartment and was dripping out the back when I shut it down. Your engine was probably not running too good with so much coolant in the combustion chambers.

Should be relatively easy fix. I'd upgrade to head studs while you're in there, along with a MLS head gasket. I'd also have the head checked for warpage. My guess would be it's fine though since you shut it down so quickly.

Mike

 

[gen1runner]

I HAD THE ULTIMATE HEAD GASKET PROBLEM, BUILT MOTOR COMPLETLY NOT THINKING TO GET THE HEAD DECKED I PUT ON A COMETIC GASKET WELL NEEDLESS TO SAY IT DIDNT SEAL PROPERLY AND I HAD EXHAUST GAS DUMPING INTO MY COOLANT SYSTEM OVERHEATING IT TERRIBLY, I REPLACED THE GASKET AND DECKED THE HEAD AND 2 DAYS LATER I HEARD A TERRIBLE KNOCK, I SPUN A ROD BEARING DUE TO ALL THE WATER THAT WAS BUILT UP IN MY BLOCK, IVE SPENT LIKE 2 GRAND GETTING THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT SO IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT YOUR INTERNALS DONT RISK IT FIX IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME YOULL SAVE MONEY AND YOUR HAIR

 

[nigma]

have you had any other damages except head gasket ?

it is not so easy for me to upgrade everything right away... i was just planning to go forged with internals and so on everything needed to keep boost instide... but it happenned sooner then i ordered stuff... i live in europe so it takes some time to get stuff here... first my friend buys it in usa.. then he sends it to me.. so that takes about 3 weeks to get it to me... i just hope pistons are allright now and i'll be bale to drive my car sooner
i'll check block condition when head will be off and then decide what bore size pistons to use.. i just hope nothing more expect head gasket was damaged

Originally posted by QuickerDSM
That sounds just like when my HG blew about 3 weeks ago. There was coolant all over the backside of the engine compartment and was dripping out the back when I shut it down. Your engine was probably not running too good with so much coolant in the combustion chambers.

Should be relatively easy fix. I'd upgrade to head studs while you're in there, along with a MLS head gasket. I'd also have the head checked for warpage. My guess would be it's fine though since you shut it down so quickly.

Mike

 

[nigma]

i have heard that cometic head gaskets dont seal properly becouse it has too hard surface and doesn't cover block and head surface inperfections
mitsubishi metal head gaskets are the way to go only it is not avalable so easy here... only thru mitsu dealers ond only standart...
looks like you have better multy layer metal head gasket sold in usa

Originally posted by gen1runner
I HAD THE ULTIMATE HEAD GASKET PROBLEM, BUILT MOTOR COMPLETLY NOT THINKING TO GET THE HEAD DECKED I PUT ON A COMETIC GASKET WELL NEEDLESS TO SAY IT DIDNT SEAL PROPERLY AND I HAD EXHAUST GAS DUMPING INTO MY COOLANT SYSTEM OVERHEATING IT TERRIBLY, I REPLACED THE GASKET AND DECKED THE HEAD AND 2 DAYS LATER I HEARD A TERRIBLE KNOCK, I SPUN A ROD BEARING DUE TO ALL THE WATER THAT WAS BUILT UP IN MY BLOCK, IVE SPENT LIKE 2 GRAND GETTING THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT SO IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT YOUR INTERNALS DONT RISK IT FIX IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME YOULL SAVE MONEY AND YOUR HAIR

 

[gen1runner]

I HAD BOTH THE HEAD AND BLOCK RE-DECKED AND NOW IM HAPPIER THAN A PIG IN SH#* WHIPPING UP ON HONDAS THAT THINK THEY CAN HANG. YOUR CAR SHOULD BE COOL I DROVE MY CAR ON 250 DEGREES FOR ABOUT 5 MILES BEFORE I TURNED IT OFF.(BAD NEIGHBORHOOD DIDNT WANT TO BREAK DOWN THERE) SO I KIND OFF SET MYSELF UP FOR IT. BUT GOOD LUCK AND KEEP BOOSTING!!!!!

 

[QuickerDSM]

Originally posted by nigma
have you had any other damages except head gasket ?

Yes I did, but I don't think the blown gasket is what caused it. I had overheated the car about 3-4 weeks previously because of a faulty fan. I think that is what warped my head, then eventually caused the gasket failure. I had the head surfaced and because it was warped .010", it caused some valve seating problems so I had a valve job performed at the same time. It ended up being over 200.00 at the machine shop, but at least I'll know for sure now. I also upgraded/replaced a lot of components while I was at it so everything kinda added up quickly. This blown head gasket probably ended up at around 650.00 with everything including new hoses all around, new WP, ARP studs, all new belts etc.. and I did all the work myself except the machining operations.

Personally, I really don't think you have to worry about the bottom end. When you pull the head, take a shop vac and make sure there is no standing water in the bores, then change your oil after the HG replacement and you should be good to go.

Hope that helps a little.

Mike

 

[nigma]

that helped alot.. i'll go to bed now its 10 pm here now i live in europe you know... i'll sleep better now i think i was worried about it very much we will take head off in the morning so i'll let you know what we found there
respect

 

[QuickerDSM]

Also, if you're bored, there is some good information about head gaskets in this link:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20320

 

[nigma]

well we took head off and gess what... looks like it was only head gasket failure i blew a large part of it.. also head surface has to be polished now and valve sealing checked but nothing realy serious... we'll do compression test when we will put head back on.. pistons and rings seem to be ok but you never know...

 

[nigma]

so we finaly finished connecting everything and so on.. and results arent good we have now 10.5 10.5 10.5 and only 5 !!! bars compression
thats realy bad seems like compression ring stuck or something like that
i'll have to go forged now and do engine rebuild one more time

 

[91TSI505]

Dude that sucks!!!!I know its hard to do but try and look at this as a positive thing,now you can upgrade with better internals,new parts,etc.Good luck with your rebuild

 

[Violater101]

Did you do a leakdown test to see if the rings were bad? I'm guessing no. Sorry to hear about your bad luck.

 

[pickens]

"a spy hunter smoke screen" !!!!!
I used to play that game alllll the time. *sigh* those were the good ol days....