Anyone Running FP green turbo w/ stock cams?

[Nik]

Just wondering if anyone out there has the FP Green turbo with the stock cams..

I was considering doing this with my Talon, along w/ the supporting mods minus the bottom end, head work, and cam.

What do you think of the performance with the stock cams?

Also, anyone have any complaints about the green's performance?

Thanks..

- Nik

 

[larryd]

im sure you would still have very good power, it just means that you would make all the much more power with cams when you put them in and tune it for them.

 

[Dyre]

Im helping Nik with his car, and we are trying to decide on a turbo.

Right now the only two contendors are the Green and AGP L2R. Both will be internally gated, running through a EVO exhuast manifold and EVO 02 housing. Exhuast is full 3". FMIC is going to be a Indy Street Core. Fuel; walbro255, 680cc/min injectors, and either a GReddy E-Manage or AFC.

Which turbo is going to work better with the stock intake manifold, head, cams, and short block?

Thx-

 

[larryd]

the AGP should outflow the Green.. the L2R is more of the FP30 equivalent then the Green.. or should be anyhow..

 

[GalantVR41062]

well the only problem with the L2r is the geto mitsubishi no hp delivering exaust housing, I think the FP30 would womp a L2R but if you want that big of a turbo right now look at the L3R but the L2r would keep most people happy, dont go larger than the L2r without cams get cams and put whatever you want on there, also with turbos this big you have to consider engine, fuel, drivetrain, aircount(2gmas overrun at 3000hrz) which a Garret 60trim can out ran that easy so unless you like mas overrun go with a MAP sensor of somekind. L2r boost by 3800w/o cams good deal. and would work with a 2g mas(I think).

 

[Faded]

Originally posted by Nik
Just wondering if anyone out there has the FP Green turbo with the stock cams..

I was considering doing this with my Talon, along w/ the supporting mods minus the bottom end, head work, and cam.

What do you think of the performance with the stock cams?

Also, anyone have any complaints about the green's performance?

Thanks..

- Nik

I AM I think the performance with stock cams is fine. Considering I don't know what it would run like with some aftermarket ones my opinion is virtually worthless. In any event, I run the FP Green and support it. I do plan on upgrading the cams soon, but have other issues to deal with first.

 

[sp00ln]

I know this might be a stupid question but can you run the green with evo mani, stock injectors & fuel pump (possibly re-wired), stock boost pressure and full 3'' exhaust?

 

[larryd]

Can you? Yes.. The question is why on earth would you want to. The green at 12psi would be no fun IMHO. Save your $$ and get the fuel work done then buy yourself a new turbo.

 

[Sean91TSi]

Originally posted by sp00ln
I know this might be a stupid question but can you run the green with evo mani, stock injectors & fuel pump (possibly re-wired), stock boost pressure and full 3'' exhaust?

You would not be smart if you did this. The green is a big child eating turbo. Throwing that onto a near stock car would not see an impressive gain. Big turbos like these will make there most power in the upper RPM range when they start to reach full boost.

 

[Rez90]

i had a green on my GST with stock cams
it freakin hauled ass

 

[Bigwilly6754]

I just bought my Green along with 720cc injectors, vic fmic, 40mm wastegate dumped to atmos, and all the other goodies and that puppy is gona be run at 20 psi or a little more! we will see!!!

 

[Goro21]

Originally posted by Rez90
i had a green on my GST with stock cams
it freakin hauled ass

I have a green on my car right now.. and i can confirm the hauling ass part

 

[Rez90]

just curious, it doesn't matter to me much anymore, but how do you get traction with a green and FWD. i had a quaife and pretty sticky tires on my GST and at 14 pounds of boost, i would still rip tires apart in first and second gear.

 

[Violater101]

The most notabe difference for me is now that I have cams in (264/272) Forth gear feels like a totally new gear that has pulling power (like third gear now).

 

[Gtalon]

I'm also running the Green without aftermarket cams. It still pulls very hard with the stock cams. You should be able to trap somewhere around 115mph with stock cams. Which is more than enough for most people who have it as their daily driver.

 

[Slowboy]

The Green on stock cams should go over 120 MPH on the right car. Years and years ago we went over 120 mph on a stock motor and cams on one... Very capable turbo.

well the only problem with the L2r is the geto mitsubishi no hp delivering exaust housing

You are right, the Green and Red perform awful in the "no hp delivering" exhaust housing.

Regards

Mike Huml

 

[Violater101]

What kind of boost to see the 120mph traps? I'm guessing around 24psi and obviously racegas.

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

I'm getting ready to try a L3R and stock cams I'll let you know how that goes around the first of april.

 

[sp00ln]

Originally posted by larryd
Can you? Yes.. The question is why on earth would you want to. The green at 12psi would be no fun IMHO. Save your $$ and get the fuel work done then buy yourself a new turbo.

Well, I would want to because instead of building around the T-25 I could just build around the Green. I know the power doesn't really kick in until you turn up the boost But, i just thought that might be a good way to go about building up a new DSM. After installing the turbo, I would get the right supporting mods for that turbo. Just a thought... thats why i asked

 

[larryd]

Its a thought but its backwards. Supprting mods then turbo. Safer, Cheaper, Smarter

 

[sp00ln]

Safer yes.. cheaper.. nah.. unless something blows.. smarter.. prolly. . Its just an idea.. I was just thinking if I had $3k to blow on a DSM I could get the best bang for my buck with a FULL 3'' exhaust, upgraded mani & Green @ stock psi - wouldn't i get more power for my buck? Then.. as i get more money.. i can add the smaller, cheaper things.. like fuel, afc, yada yada yada.. - or am i way off?

 

[larryd]

Your not going to go super fast without turning up the boost on a larger turbo. You can go just as fast by turning up the boost on your stock turbo with supporting mods.

 

[TRBOTSI]

Originally posted by sp00ln
Safer yes.. cheaper.. nah.. unless something blows.. smarter.. prolly. . Its just an idea.. I was just thinking if I had $3k to blow on a DSM I could get the best bang for my buck with a FULL 3'' exhaust, upgraded mani & Green @ stock psi - wouldn't i get more power for my buck? Then.. as i get more money.. i can add the smaller, cheaper things.. like fuel, afc, yada yada yada.. - or am i way off?

You'd be going about it all wrong and by the sounds of things, blow your car up. The DSM staged upgrade path has been in use for many years, don't you think if there were a better way people would have done it by now..Listen to the people who have been working on DSM. Sure you'd be able to tell all the highschool girls you have a FP Green on your car, but it'll be pretty embarassing when your pal with his stock turbo and $700 in proper supporting mods whoops your ass....

 

[sp00ln]

First of all, Im not in high school. Second of all, I have a DSM myself that I have been working on (in the staged upgrades). Its a FWD, I want to sell it and get an AWD. Im planning on having $3k left over from the transfer. I WOULD NOT keep the Green setup with just a 3'' exhaust. I would eventually get the all the supporting mods. But, instead of throwing parts on my car.. then getting the green and having to take most of those parts out to get other ones that work better with the green setup, just doesn't sound right. I would rather build my car around this turbo then build it around something else, then having to have to change the setup. I've seen it many times where people practicly get a whole new setup when they change turbos. Im not saying I will do this with my car, but i thought i would just throw the question out and see what people had to say. So, trbotsi, please dont flame someone for asking a simple question.

 

[larryd]

You dont build it around something else. The only mods that are dependant upon the Green are the injectors and fuel pump. You would install them when you install the turbo. THe rest of the mods should all be done before.