Cold air intake for turbo eclipse

[SILVERBULLET52]

I wanted to know if any of you know of a company that makes a cold airintake for the turbo eclipse or if anyone has done it getto style while still using the stock MAS? Let me know ASAP I plan on doing it this weekend if I have to go with the getto setup.

Thanks for the space,

Chaz Turner

 

[Airpoppoff]

correct me if im wrong but i really dont see the point since the air has to go through your hot ass turbo, but then is cooled by the intercooler anyway?

 

[SILVERBULLET52]

Because if you reduce the air that it suck in the turbo then thats less work the I/C has to do therefore The charge of air is a s**t load colder. Why do you think they make heat sheilds for the cars.

 

[pneumo]

VFAQ.com has some DIY CAI's aka Home Depot Racing intakes : )
It's ghetto, it's cheap, it works.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Airpoppoff
correct me if im wrong but i really dont see the point since the air has to go through your hot ass turbo, but then is cooled by the intercooler anyway?

Exactly, this is the reason why there are almost no production CAI for turbo cars. The turbo is going to heat the air up anyway so lowering to inlet temperature will do nothing to reduce over all charged air temps.

This is the intercoolers job, it lowers the intake charge close to ambient temps. Filter location size flow and out side air temps have zero effect on power production detonation and tuning. Air is air hot cold damn..ect It makes no difference with a turbo car because the turbo is going to super heat the air anyway.

The best filter location is as close to the exhaust manifold, and in the direct path of the cooling fans. When they come on it will shoot hot air directly into the air filter for a boost in performance. the hot air works like an after burner in your intake.

 

[greyforestgst]

that logic is skewed

a turbo compressing 40*f air to 15psi is going to throw it out of the compressor housing at a muuuch lower temperature than a turbo compressing 100*f air to 15psi. its not like a maybe, its like physics.
weather has a very large part in tuning, no matter what car you have.
finally, hot air working like an afterburner? an afterburner is basically a system of fuel injectors behind the exit turbine of a jet engine, and it works by dumping a large amount of fuel in to the stream of exhaust gasses. this fuel combusts and pushes forward on the engine, basically turning it in to a rocket. it is a very inefficient method of propulsion used in quick bursts during takeoff etc. the closest thing to what you describe would be the fuel injectors in the exhaust manifolds of WRC cars. hot air in your intake will act absoutely nothing like an afterburner. it will just make air come out of your compressor housing hotter, be cooled to not as cold as it would have been by your intercooler, then cause more predetonation and less power due to creating a thinner, more volaitle(sic) fuel/air mixture.

 

[turbohappy]

Also, the 40 degree air is a lot denser, so 40 degree air compressed to 15psi will have more air in it. I'm curious what the difference in turbo outlet temps is though...

 

[SILVERBULLET52]

Hey greyforestgst - what do you think about this CAI is it worth it?

Thanks Chaz Turner

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by greyforestgst
that logic is skewed

a turbo compressing 40*f air to 15psi is going to throw it out of the compressor housing at a muuuch lower temperature than a turbo compressing 100*f air to 15psi. its not like a maybe, its like physics.
weather has a very large part in tuning, no matter what car you have.
finally, hot air working like an afterburner? an afterburner is basically a system of fuel injectors behind the exit turbine of a jet engine, and it works by dumping a large amount of fuel in to the stream of exhaust gasses. this fuel combusts and pushes forward on the engine, basically turning it in to a rocket. it is a very inefficient method of propulsion used in quick bursts during takeoff etc. the closest thing to what you describe would be the fuel injectors in the exhaust manifolds of WRC cars. hot air in your intake will act absoutely nothing like an afterburner. it will just make air come out of your compressor housing hotter, be cooled to not as cold as it would have been by your intercooler, then cause more predetonation and less power due to creating a thinner, more volaitle(sic) fuel/air mixture.

You guys are way to serious i was being sarcastic, I figured you knew that, check out my cold air intake

 

[cait sith]

I put a front mount air intake on my car in front of my front mount intercooler, which is then in front of my front mount oil cooler.

I'm considering purchasing a sidemount radiator.

 

[Streetbeat]

if you get the maf translater you can run a cold air intake straight from your turbo

 

[peregrine]

Originally posted by cait sith
I put a front mount air intake on my car in front of my front mount intercooler, which is then in front of my front mount oil cooler.

I'm considering purchasing a sidemount radiator.

:laugh:

 

[bosljeff]

I know several people have done this:

 

[bosljeff]

I know several people have done this:



http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=20893&password=&sort=7&thecat=500



http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=20895&password=&sort=7&thecat=500

 

[13secGST]

I know a CAI would help a turbo car...may not do tooo much but it will be better. The main reason I think it is better is to get the intake out from under hood temps...it would help since air under the hood is always considerably hotter than air outside. I'm probably just going to run some dryer duct up to and around my filter rather than bringing the filter down.

 

[bosljeff]

I went to a vacuum store and bought a replacement hose for a shop vac, something like 3 or 3.5 in, for several bucks. It is black and might look better than dryer duct. Also, the one I got wasn't just straight plastic, it was a much more flexible plastic and the "ribbing" was made of wire. So it was more flexible and easy to work with (careful, though not to puncture it) and the inside is much smoother for airflow. Other shop vac hoses have quite deep ribs inside making it a bumpy ride for the air, kinda like the stock rubber intake hose. Sorry, simple blurb turned long. My bad.

 

[jake98gst]

dejon tool carries bunch of CAIs for 1Gs without MAFs (using a VPC or standalone)

http://www.dejontool.com/new 1g Intake.htm

 

[loreak]

yeah there really isnt anywhere to go with the stock sidemount still there unless you are using the maf translator in the uicp, i plan on getting the gm maf in the uicp and then running an intake down near the ground, once i get a frontmount ill just put it in the fender