Big 16G turbo w/ no turbine housing from Mach V

[ryan2987]

I was looking around for turbos and i saw the Big 16g with no turbine housing from MACH V. will this make good HP or sould i get the Big 16g from FP? What would be the best choice power and money wise?

 

[larryd]

what is no turbine housing?? how can you have a turbo with no housing??

 

[ryan2987]

its sold that way from mach v. i just have to use the turbine housing from my 14b. check it out here http://www.machv.com/big16gturnot.html. The housing from the 14b is only 6cm instead of the 7cm which comes with the true 16G. should i just wait and get the fp green turbo?

 

[larryd]

i gotcha.. so you have to put the turbo together yourself all your buying is the compressor wheel then from machV.. I personally wouldnt do that.. also the size turbo you want all depend son what you want in yer car

 

[ryan2987]

my final goal is mid 11 to 12 sec 1/4. But thats down the road and i just want something cheap that will give me alittle more power then the stock turbo i have

 

[larryd]

in all honesty the stock 14B you have can get you into the 12s with the right work done and youd need alot of mods other then just a big turbo to go 11s and 12s..

 

[ryan2987]

before the turbo i want to upgrade to larger injectors and new feul pump and i front mount. but before that i got to get it painted and new racing hart wheels. my 14b should do fine for awhile.

 

[larryd]

xactly.. the 14b is not a bad turbo

 

[2-0turbo]

Originally posted by ryan2987
I was looking around for turbos and i saw the Big 16g with no turbine housing from MACH V. will this make good HP or sould i get the Big 16g from FP? What would be the best choice power and money wise?

The "true" Big 16G will probably make more power since it uses the 7CM housing and won't restrict exhaust so much, but it will lag more. When I first bought my DSM about 3 years ago, I posted a question about turbos on The Digest. Of all people who reponded: Al Blaha. He told me that the 16G wheel (I think he was talking about the small 16G, because the big 16G's were rare then) with the 6CM housing is about the ultimate auto-x turbo for our cars. Quick spool, with better top end than the 14B. So, it would be a good combo.

So, do you want quick spool and lose a little top-end, or more lag with more top end. For the same money, Robert at Forced Performance is having a sale on COMPLETE Big 16G turbos, for the same price as MachV (without the housing). So, 6CM or 7CM--the choice is yours. You really can't go wrong with a 16G on a DSM--they are great. (my experience based on small-16G)

 

[TRBOTSI]

"all your buying is the compressor wheel then from machV"

No, it's the complete turbo minus the turbine housing, exactly what he said. All that holds the turbo itself together with the turbine housing is a band clamp, so it's actually really easy to just slip in the new cartidge.
I would buy the complete B16G from FP for $600. I recently bought a used 16g cartridge and my buddy put it on his 2G 14b-6cm powered car. The car pulls a lot harder with the 16G , and he ran a 12.7 with the 14B. Either way for the price difference, get the Big16 from FP.

 

[Enigma_Man]

I called about that sale. There's no more sale.

 

[marshall]

i put together a s16g/6cm turbo. the 6cm turbine is about as ported as possible. spools extremely quickly (even quicker than my 14b), lots of mid range, not bad top end.

definately a great auto-x turbo.

if you don't like the 6cm, turbotrix sells 7cm housings for ~200.

marshall
streetdynamics.com

 

[Ludachris]

That turbo minus the housing is mainly for those who want to get into a 16G cheaply. Your stock turbine housing is 6cm, so you won't have the advantage of the 7cm turbine housing sold with the complete 16G turbo. If you're planning on upgrading your turbine housing later, then this turbo will be a good choice. You should be able to get low 12's with lots of practice - 11's if you're a pro.

It's a good choice for those who don't have the lump sum to spend all at once.

 

[DSM_Drew]

I just got a (small) 16G cartridge from Turbotrix. I'm in the process of installing it now. Cost me $420. I'm having a used 14B turbine housing mildly ported (match to manifold, port wastegate etc). I went this route because I need to save money where I can. I'm not trying to do anything wild with my car anyway. I'd say its a good choice if you need to save a few bucks or support your car addiction paycheck to paycheck like me. I never really thought about the 6cm housing improving spool-up for auto-x stuff, but that sounds like another nice advantage.