Evo 7?

[UndergroundR32]

I may be flamed for this asking this but has anyone seen a Evo 7 motor swap into an eclipse, talon, or GVR4? If not would you think that it would be a difficult swap?

 

[cmc]

I would be hesitant to say impossible, but if it was done it would be a total hack!

 

[UndergroundR32]

that's what I would think but it's only a 2 liter

 

[nholley]

I was under the impression it was pretty much the same engine as the 4G63. If it is, as long as the engine mounts are in the right position it should fit.

I am driving one in the next few weeks, I'll take a look for you!

 

[UndergroundR32]

Hey I wanna drive one! The Evo 5 I know has a 4g63 but not the Evo7 and that's what i'm interested in. I'd like to put it in my Galant if it were possible. I'm afraid It may me a bit of a headache to do and that is why I am asking you guys.

 

[nholley]

I'll see what the guys at Mitsubishi say. The service guys are pretty helpful, they should be able to say one way or the other.

Should be fun to drive, I think they want me to trade in the Eclipse, but I am not sure about the looks. The EVO VI looked more aggressive.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Originally posted by nholley
I'll see what the guys at Mitsubishi say. The service guys are pretty helpful, they should be able to say one way or the other.

Should be fun to drive, I think they want me to trade in the Eclipse, but I am not sure about the looks. The EVO VI looked more aggressive.

The newer evos, even the V I think have a unique look to them. I think it looks less sporty than the 2 G eclipse.

 

[nholley]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32


The newer evos, even the V I think have a unique look to them. I think it looks less sporty than the 2 G eclipse.

The look comes from the rules related to the World Rally Championship. They have to build a certain number of road going cars that to a certain degree resemble the rally car. Basically, without the rallying there would be no Evo. In Europe they are limited to the Lancer because of the 2 litre engine. They pick a car in the range that has the right sized engine and then go to town. An Eclipse with all the goodies from the Evo would be one hell of a car. When my Eclipse was first serviced in the UK, they were fighting over who go to work on it. and they said the same thing, why not put the equipment from the EVO in an Eclipse body.

With the Evo VII they are trying to appeal to a broarder spectrum of people, thus making it less aggressive looking and a little easier to drive with all the electronics. After the demise of the Skyline in Europe, If you want a Jap turbo it is either a WRX or Evo VII.

RIP Skyline, 300ZX, RX-7, Turbo DSM's, Ford Escort Cosworth, Supra.. the list goes on.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Originally posted by nholley


The look comes from the rules related to the World Rally Championship. They have to build a certain number of road going cars that to a certain degree resemble the rally car. Basically, without the rallying there would be no Evo. In Europe they are limited to the Lancer because of the 2 litre engine. They pick a car in the range that has the right sized engine and then go to town. An Eclipse with all the goodies from the Evo would be one hell of a car. When my Eclipse was first serviced in the UK, they were fighting over who go to work on it. and they said the same thing, why not put the equipment from the EVO in an Eclipse body.

With the Evo VII they are trying to appeal to a broarder spectrum of people, thus making it less aggressive looking and a little easier to drive with all the electronics. After the demise of the Skyline in Europe, If you want a Jap turbo it is either a WRX or Evo VII.

RIP Skyline, 300ZX, RX-7, Turbo DSM's, Ford Escort Cosworth, Supra.. the list goes on.

I have a great respect for rally cars, rally car drivers, and rally racing in general. I believe and am sure it's plain to see that Rally Racing requires and allows much more skill improvement than does Drag Racing. The cars take a great amount more abuse on suspension and engine and performance parts alike. I have DirecTV which has the speed channel, and watch rally racing a number of nights a week. They have great in car views from a number of rally cars. The unfortunate thing about it is that in the races that they cover you will see very little of the Lancer Evo's do to the fact that they are usually not towards the front of the pack . Its quite obvious that the drivers are quite less skilled when you see the in car views from the Evo's. Hehe . I'm surprised to see how common Ford Focus' are in the rally racing world.

 

[nholley]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32


I have a great respect for rally cars, rally car drivers, and rally racing in general. I believe and am sure it's plain to see that Rally Racing requires and allows much more skill improvement than does Drag Racing. The cars take a great amount more abuse on suspension and engine and performance parts alike. I have DirecTV which has the speed channel, and watch rally racing a number of nights a week. They have great in car views from a number of rally cars. The unfortunate thing about it is that in the races that they cover you will see very little of the Lancer Evo's do to the fact that they are usually not towards the front of the pack . Its quite obvious that the drivers are quite less skilled when you see the in car views from the Evo's. Hehe . I'm surprised to see how common Ford Focus' are in the rally racing world.

The Lancer was the best car up until 2 years ago. The guy who was driving was recruited by Peugeot. All the other top drivers had contracts so they basically had to take what was left. One of the new drivers is pretty young he will be up there in a few years. Ford have a long history in Rallying. The focus is probably the best car out there. It just won the African Rally which is the toughest. Although we are still waiting for the road version of the rally car. I have got myself down for a test drive when it finally arrives. AWD, 240BHP and a six speed box is the current rumor. Bit of a body kit as well. Should be nice.

One of the Focus drivers issued a challenge to Michael Schumacher last week. 1 race in a rally car and one in a Formula 1 car. Take the average time and see who is the best. Michael rejected it. They put a rally guy in the Euro version of Nascar a few years back and he beat the lot of them. I would love to see it. 1 driver from every world series, a race in all the cars, see who is the best.

 

[UndergroundR32]

AWD focus hmm? This is going to sound nieve but what are the current Focus'?

 

[nholley]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32
AWD focus hmm? This is going to sound nieve but what are the current Focus'?

FWD. Either 1.8 or 2L. I think there will be 2 performance ones, RS and Cosworth. RS will be FWD and Cosworth AWD. The AWD will be fast. The Escort Cosworth was a beast.

 

[UndergroundR32]

I'd be interested in seeing that. When will the AWD model be racing? Or is it already?

 

[nholley]

The AWD is the rally car. I don't know the specs on the rally version but they are pretty insane. We are still waiting for the road car. Some say it will come, some say it will not.

http://www.fordrallyesport.com/index2.asp should give you some info.

 

[UndergroundR32]

Alright thanks. I have to say I'm not much for Fords but that's pretty nice that they have an AWD version, even if it is a rally car.

 

[nholley]

I am not a big fan either. But like you, i can appreciate a car for what it has regardless of make. They nearly got it right with the Focus, the AWD road version should be the one. If they ever get around to building the damn thing.

 

[InferiorWang]

i think the newer evos starting at like 4 or 5 had the engine rotated 180 degrees and that might make it a b!tch to put in our cars.

 

[nholley]

It would end the dream.

 

[dsmnate]

Originally posted by InferiorWang
i think the newer evos starting at like 4 or 5 had the engine rotated 180 degrees and that might make it a b!tch to put in our cars.

You are correct. I was thinking about this a little while ago and looked at pictures of the EVO and if you look at the pics of the engine bay you will see that the motor is mounted in the opposite direction as the 4g63 in the Eclipse. I imagine that if you really wanted you could make it fit but it would be alot more work than just a simple bolt in and cpu upgrade.

 

[cmc]

All evos have a 4g63, just three and up are facing towards the passenger side!

 

[UndergroundR32]

276 HP out of a 4g63 with a 16G stock. The Evolution does come with a 16G correct?

 

[EvolvingGST]

yes they have the 4G63.... but with every evolution model something has changed with the engine... I.E. we can not use Evo VI or VII pistons and rods. i also believe that they use different mounts in higher models.. but i might be wrong

 

[nholley]

Originally posted by UndergroundR32
276 HP out of a 4g63 with a 16G stock. The Evolution does come with a 16G correct?

I don't know if it is a 16G. It is all the electrics I like. They have a new traction control system on there that is supposed to be the most advanced. Leagues ahead of the Skyline GTR. Can't wait to put it through it's paces.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

It is a twin-Scroll turbo the size of a big 16G.

Later,

 

[nholley]

hhmmmmm.