Electronic Supercharger

[MrPikolo]

Has anyone ever installed an electronic supercharger in there dsm? If so did it provide any/worth wild power increase?

 

[LandoAWD]

No...and no.

Edit: I have no experience with these, but...c'mon...you seriously think it would help? Seriously?

 

[MrPikolo]

Well, i wasn't really sure. Because it is forced air. I was thinking about trying it, but figured on the cost of buying one, hooking it up to my battery and also having a decient sound system may be to much of a bother.

They "SAY" to increase hp like 5% or some crap like that, and wanted to make sure it actualy workes good before seriously considered to possibly buy one, which was the purpose of the post.

 

[UltraImports]

I'm having flashbacks of honda-acura.net.....someone wake me up!

 

[boostineklipz]

I have found when you add the electric-supercharger along with the electric turbo and the ebay performance chip that you gain about -10 hp and - 100 in the wallet.

Those things do not work!!!

 

[MrPikolo]

Haha, i guess that is a big no.

 

[greyforestgst]

no this is

NO

 

[Tallen]

you do realize your car has a turbo? correct?

 

[MrPikolo]

Yes, I do. I was just curious to see if it would help it out at all. Like I stated before, I havn't heard anything about them so I didn't know

 

[FourG63 97GST]

how about you be the guinea pig and tell us how it is

 

[MrPikolo]

I think I'll spend the money of food. heh

 

[greyforestgst]

ive read a couple places that these push 200cfm and about 1psi over atmosphere
stock four bangers pull about 200cfm at wot. anything bigger and this shit will actually restrict airflow.

now they might actually work on an extremely small motor...goped small maybe. if i ever actualy see one on a car thoguh i will laugh my anus off.

 

[UltraImports]

If you really think this would help, please donate your dsm to a less fortunate tuner who knows what a dsm can do but just can't afford it.

 

[Enigma_Man]

The tiny electric "superchargers" for sale on ebay and the like are crap. They're just old heater fans. There is one company that makes a really beefy electric motor and fan combo, but it still only generates a fraction of pressure in the intake (though it is good for a couple extra ft-lbs, and actually dyno proven).

I did some actual research on electric superchargers (being an electrical engineer, doing things to my car with electricity appeals a lot to me) and after some calculation, being able to produce any real positive pressure in the intake would take approximately a 25 Kilowatt electric motor.

For those of you who aren't familiar with how voltage and current works, at the approximately 12 volts produced by a car, this would require 2,000 some-odd amps of current. For comparison, the starter motor in your car draws a maximum worst-case scenario of about 400 amps. The biggest sub amp any of you have is probably on the order of 1000 watts, and that's peak (I think) and it will only reach that for a fraction of a second at peak volume. You know how people get special alternators and electrical equipment to run those big stereos? Powering an electric supercharger would take at least 25 times the amount of electrical beefyness.

So no, it isn't practical or possible even.

Also, electronically intercooling (peltier junction) is even worse. You'd need 500 KW to match our stock IC. Hehe

-Jesse

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by UltraImports
If you really think this would help, please donate your dsm to a less fortunate tuner who knows what a dsm can do but just can't afford it.

Heh, I wasn't sure if it would help, that is why i asked, and i can barely afford my dsm.

Yeah, this is also a helpfull thread if anyone else was thinking about getting one, so it isn't that much of a waste of bandwith.

 

[Zerocygnal]

Stick your hand behind the computer...
Feel that fan? That is about all the CFM that thing is going to provide. Your engine compression alone will pull more inHG than the fan will CFM.
I'm waiting to see the thread "Fan blade broke off, Sucked in ENGINE!!!"

 

[MrPikolo]

Originally posted by Zerocygnal
Stick your hand behind the computer...
Feel that fan? That is about all the CFM that thing is going to provide. Your engine compression alone will pull more inHG than the fan will CFM.
I'm waiting to see the thread "Fan blade broke off, Sucked in ENGINE!!!"

Wow, wouldn't that suck. They produce a tiny bit more than that though, or the one I was looking at. But still, obviously they will be useless.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by MrPikolo
Has anyone ever installed an electronic supercharger in there dsm? If so did it provide any/worth wild power increase?

This is a classic example of someone who has done zero research and has not utilized the VAST wealth of online dsm knowledge and hundreds of available sites and resources on the Internet available to him. Chris has gone to great lengths to provide direction and guidance to prevent post like this at dsmtuners. its unfortunate that some refuse to use common sense.

 

[UltraImports]

even the honda boys look down on this....

 

[MrPikolo]

I apologize if I have offended anyone. I searched for "Electronic supercharger", and found nothing of use. No, I did not search dsm talk. I figured that a post with such and obvious subject that I used could also help other questioning the usefullness of them. Attitude like you have used is also something Chris has been trying to prevent.

 

[Enigma_Man]

I hope my response was useful.

-Jesse

 

[MrPikolo]

Yes, it was very helpfull to me. Thank you very much.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Umm...

No it's not helpful and it never will be.