My New SMIM

[redtsi252]

So0o I bit the bullet and got one of those EBAY SMIM...I personally weld and I thought the welds were AWSOME....it seems to be a well designed and Stout piece.....looks jus like a JM Fab

I will have the car running next week....it is Currently Tuned for 25psi on a 35RWTF...I will get some dyno testing next week VS a 1G ported and extrude hone Intake mani

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Also why I was at it I fliped my injectors around and put the whole harness under the Intake mani....then ran the Injector plugs through the runners....

I also relocated my Coil back to the back of the block...didnt need a bracket or anything

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Lemme kno if anyone has any questions...and lemme kno what yall think

 

[crimsondragon]

Where are the vacuum ports? Who makes it? If you still have your JM Fab SMIM, please do a comparison as well against it.

 

[redtsi252]

vaccume ports are underneath the plenum...... i never had a JM fab SMIM

 

[redtsi252]

however my buddy as a JM fab SMIM and this is an EXACT replica

 

[redtsi252]

O yea.... its a EBAy SMIM

 

[fwdmaster]

Nice installLooks the same as the JMF intake manifold

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

Whats the inside look like? Velocity stacks?

 

[redtsi252]

same as JM fab velocity stacks and all

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

Just looked them up on ebay. They arent much cheaper then a real JM fab...

 

[redtsi252]

Yeah but they are SS

 

[redtsi252]

JM fab's are aluminum

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

Cool. Didnt know that.

 

[KYNgsx]

How heavy is it?

 

[redtsi252]

not sure....maybe 15 lbs

 

[bmoha2]

I've been picking thru lot's of the ebay postings and can't find any active ebay auctions with this manifold. I can't possibly believe that this ebay manifold is made of SS. Those aren't SS welds. Those are classic aluminum welds hence that ebay manifold is made of aluminum. I really can't see that there would be much of a difference between this manifold and a JMF manifold as the design is so similar. That being said, I see this as a direct ripoff of the JMF manifold and because of that JMF should sue the manufacturer of this manifold! It is because of things like this that Trust Greddy had to file bankruptcy. Plagiarism to the inth degree! Even though that smim looks just like the JMF smim, I seriously doubt that it is made out of the same thickness of sheetmetal as the JMF smim. Or that the proper metallurgical procedure was used to make the bends in the sheetmetal without inherently inducing metal fatigue into the sheetmetal as JMF does. This would produce a smim that is prone to cracking at the bends. The welds look spiffy. They looks decent enough. I think the welds would do ok. It's the rest of the manifold that I would suspect. The company that made this smim should have just gone ahead and put JMF's name on it and take stealing to that next level. For the difference of less than a hundred dollars I would never buy one of these. I'd put he money into the rightful designer of the smim. It's the principal of the thing. JMF isn't a huge company, no where near as big a Greddy but things like this have caused a company as large as Greddy to fold.

 

[Project2G]

The appearance of the SMIM looks great but it looks a little too much like a box. I like how the Magnus ones have the shape where it gets narrow at one end for the air flow

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http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a39/tavo_80816/1JMFMagnus2.jpg

 

[redtsi252]

Ok.....I am about to correct my self...last night I installed it in the dark and didnt have much time to look at it....

It is in fact aluminum....BUT....the seller on ebay offers these in SS and aluminum....the ss ones are $475....I already talked to him and he is gonna send me a Free SS one for my troubles...I dont kno which one I will be running...I will ###### jus run this one since its already on my car

Now I took a micrometer and measured the thickness of the walls and they are the same as JM Fab

I got this manifold for $150...NEW....I am sure any one would jump on this for $150....so0o please do not critisize me for buying this manifold..

As for the Magnus manifold..I have never been a fan of them...not saying that they dont perform well ....BUT I just dont like the design and then hearing about the Welds blowing and stuff

I made this thread to help out the DSM community....to see if this Manifold is even worth messing with

I only paid $150 for it and I will be doing some testing VS. a JM FAB race manifold

thanx for the space....

 

[wancsta]

For a $150?????? please provide some sort of link to this seller or an item. I'm not big on ebay knockoffs but for $150 i'm sold ss or aluminum..... this guy is going to give you a free one too? link please!

 

[marcmsj]

I've never seen the injectors flipped before... Good idea, much cleaner look.

 

[redtsi252]

Whoa Whoa Whoa......sorry to get you Guys all excited....he did this because he owed me a favor....

 

[kahl23]

Is it me or is your fuel rail bowed in the middle?

 

[wancsta]

Ok well in that case how much for whichever you choose not to use

 

[redtsi252]

Here is the Seller...PLEASE READ THE DISCRIPTION....

These are the Stainless Steel manifolds for $400

eBay Motors: DSM ECLIPSE GSX GST TALON TSI VR4 4G63 INTAKE MANIFOLD! (item 180287468341 end time Sep-16-08 07:53:27 PDT)

 

[redtsi252]

He also has dyno tested this manifold....Compared to to the Bulldog mani, and weapon R....he also Pressure tests these to 50 PSI



"NOW OUR INTAKE MANIFOLD, ON A STOCK '92 ECLIPSE WITH JUST THE MANIFOLD BOLTED ON, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL 14.4 HP INCREASE, NOW THAT'S REAL WORLD NUMBERS ON A STOCK CAR ON THE DYNO WITH STOCK BOOST, NOT BAD RIGHT. ON THE SAME CAR WITH THE BOOST TURNED UP TO 16PSI, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO 19.6HP INCREASE, GETTING SWEETER AIN'T WE. ON OUR WORKED TALON WITH AN SUPER 18G TURBO, HUGE FRONT MOUNT, 780 INJECTORS, MAFT, 272 CAMS, P&P CYLINDER HEAD, BIG TUBE HEADER, 3INCH DP AND EXHAUST, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL AN EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE 37.8HP OVER THE STOCK MANIFOLD. THIS WAS A SHOCKER TO ALL OF US AT THE DYNO. WHEN WE GET DONE BUILDING OUR NEW STROKER MOTOR WE ARE HOPING TO BREAK 40HP WITH THIS MANIFOLD. THESE ARE REAL WORLD NUMBERS ON REAL CARS, NO GUESSING OR INFLATING NUMBERS TO SELL A PRODUCT, NO LYING HERE, JUST REAL NUMBERS FROM REAL CAR BUILDERS. "

This is a quote from him

 

[redtsi252]

by the way it weights 5.113 lbs