Flame on . . . I bought from ssautochrome

[DSMvroom]

Well I gave in. I really didn't want to, but punishmentracing isn't accepting any orders for o2 housings.

I hopped on to ebay and found a combo for ssautochrome's exhaust manifold + o2 housing for ~300 shipped.

Originally I was going to buy an o2 housing from SBR along with the evoIII + install kit I ordered, but I really didn't want to spend almost 300 on it. I know I know, you get what you pay for . . . but I'm being optomistic.

Anyway I've been around long enough to know I shouldn't have bought it, but I'm still glad I did. I'm *hoping* it will stand up to the ~10-14psi that I will be running on the evoIII.

Once the parts arrive I'll get some pics for you all to see the products better. I am concerned about how apparently the materials are thin, though. w/e, only time will tell.

Here's an example of what I purchased . . http://cgi.ebay.com/DSM-Eclipse-T28...ryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
edit: the one I purchased has an atmospheric dump

Bottom line, I haven't seen anyone on this board be a guinnea pig on it so here I am. If things get Fd up, I'll send them back and get warranty replacements or port my stock stuff and toss the ssautocrap out.

 

[alex99gst]

you get what you pay for

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176409&highlight=autochrome

 

[matt97gst]

Their FMIC kit is almost tempting...I don't think anyone really knows about it though. http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1438

 

[almostquick]

hey, I've seen a guy locally lay down 383hp from the 240sx turbo kit that they make, in his stock motor KA-T. my only advice is brace that manifold when you get it, the weight of the turbo and some of the piping behind it weighs a lot, so make sure it will hold it all. good luck, and I hope it holds up, post your results.

 

[MaNGiNa24]

I heard people have been having good results with their newer style manifolds.

 

[Road-Rocket]

I'm running their ss tubular o2 housing with my evo3 16g. The quality looks great but the fitment sucks. The bolt holes wouldn't line up with the evo3 ones. I had to use a file to enlarge them and be able to bolt it to the turbine housing. Also, the flange was warped, but a quick trip to the machine shop and $10.00 and problem was fixed. I'm still very satisfied with the fact that I only spent $80.00 total. I've only had it for a week, but it's working great along with the 3" megan racing downpipe. I'm aware of ssautochrome reliabilty issues with their products, but I hope this o2 housing holds up for long time. Only time itself will tell.

 

[DSMvroom]

awesome responses guys, thanks. i had seen that pic of the busted manifold a long time ago, so i am aware of it.

as for the fitment on the evo3, i'll be preassembling and porting anyway so i will have time to modify it if needed. I also have a megan dp that I will be using too so that information is helpful.

As far as bracing it goes, I'll have to see if I can't figure something out.

 

[WatchItExplode]

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FLAME ON

 

[gixrman]

I'm *hoping* it will stand up to the ~10-14psi that I will be running on the evoIII.

Why are you only pushing 10-14psi? might as well stayed with the t-25.

 

[Grn95GST]

I have the FMIC. It looks and works great. I like the short route piping too. All welds are good. Its pretty much the same as the AGP race kit. If you have any other questions on it let me know. I think I have pretty much the first one made. I got it from my buddy. I didnt pay 650.00 for it though.

 

[DSMvroom]

Why are you only pushing 10-14psi? might as well stayed with the t-25.

is that a serious question?

The evoIII pushes more lbs/min of air than the t25 at any boost level.

I won't have any fuel management until next summer so 10-14psi is all I will run until that time.

 

[matt97gst]

I have the FMIC. It looks and works great. I like the short route piping too. All welds are good. Its pretty much the same as the AGP race kit. If you have any other questions on it let me know. I think I have pretty much the first one made. I got it from my buddy. I didnt pay 650.00 for it though.

Some up close pictures of the piping and core would be nice. Fitment, etc.

 

[daren_p]

is that a serious question?

The evoIII pushes more lbs/min of air than the t25 at any boost level.

I won't have any fuel management until next summer so 10-14psi is all I will run until that time.

Don't think you'll be able to run that low of boost with the evo, when I first installed mine before I had my fuel system installed I think 13 was the lowest I could go with my mbc turned all the way down & it would creep to 14 (up to 15 on one very cold night in the spring). So I just set the mbc @ 14 & was done with it. You should be fine @14, I had dsmlink @ the same time to make sure I wasn't knocking. I got up to 15.5 psi once with an injector duty cycle of 107% but since these cars run so rich from factory (~9.5 to 1) , it still wasn't knocking.

 

[gixrman]

is that a serious question?

The evoIII pushes more lbs/min of air than the t25 at any boost level.

I won't have any fuel management until next summer so 10-14psi is all I will run until that time.

Is your stock manifold cracked? Why go with the bling, bling manifold when what you really need is more fuel? You can get a 255 pump for less than $200 and have $100 left over towards the AFPR. And someone sells a bolt on one for not much more than that.

 

[ALL4thaN0okie]

Is your stock manifold cracked? Why go with the bling, bling manifold when what you really need is more fuel? You can get a 255 pump for less than $200 and have $100 left over towards the AFPR. And someone sells a bolt on one for not much more than that.

walbro 255 is $95 last time i checked.....

 

[GSTBlack95]

Not to hijack the thread but why is the 255 cheaper then the 190?

 

[DSMvroom]

my stock manifold is not cracked. i had no intentions of buying a new manifold in the first place, but i wanted an o2 housing with an atmospheric dump. it's all in my first post.

anyway i am planning on safc and a 190 w/o an afpr, but that isn't until next summer. i'm really not that interested in the bling bling.

 

[rowlex]

IIRC, you posted about the Megan Racing 3" downpipe too... if your entire exhaust is 3" you will be creeping to 20+ lbs...be readyf or that

One thing I have noticed that most people dont get/understand about the picture of that manifold is this:

THE PART WAS INCORRECTLY SUPPORTED.

Want proof? LOOK where the turbo is now, if it were correctly installed, the exhaust manifold would NOT be the only thing supporting: the manifold, the turbo, the o2 housing, AND the downpipe. You should always have the block to downpipe bolt's supporting the DP. Think about the kind of weight that manifold had to support + rigid/bouncy suspension and heat cycles.

 

[maximumbob]

Anyone have any pics or ideas how the downpipe is supposed to be supported? It has been a while since I took the stocker off and don't remember if it was even supported.

 

[rowlex]

On the block you might find a bracket, held on by a 14mm and a 10mm. its on the drivers side front of the block, right side of the downpipe. On the DP their is a bracket with a hole in it, you put a bolt through the hole and screw it into the bracket attached to the block.

 

[GS_EX_99]

Did anyone else notice what turbo was on that Manifold that broke? Its a Holset HX series, those things are much bigger than an evo3 + not having support for the o2 and DP. No shit that thing broke. IMO the SS Mani should be ok for the evo3, just as long as the right percautions are taken.

 

[DSMvroom]

well they just arrived today.

the o2 housing looks excellent. the manifold is alright. one thing i noticed is that the flange that mates up to the head relative to the flange that mates up to the turbo is not at a 90 degree angle. I don't know if it is supposed to be that way or not but I presumed they would be at a 90 degree angle.

As far as support goes, I think it should be ok. There are arms at each of the runners that connect to the flange as what is supposed to be extra support, and there is also one at the collector.

As far as the welds go, they are alright also. In its entirety, it isn't as professionally done as it really probably should be but I think this will work out just fine for my application.

*56k warning* each pic is at least 150kb
http://home.comcast.net/~albertcj/manifold.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~albertcj/manifold2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~albertcj/o2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~albertcj/o2-2.jpg

 

[blcknspo0ln]

If I were you, i'd get the manifold flange reinforced right away, with some heavy duty brackets. I don't think you wanna be that honda guy

goodluck, and make sure to repost back in a couple months

 

[Skunked tsi]

If I were you, i'd get the manifold flange reinforced right away, with some heavy duty brackets. I don't think you wanna be that honda guy

goodluck, and make sure to repost back in a couple months

Please note as already stated the manifold that failed had no other support other then the flange itself. His has brackets on the flange and evo3 16g weighs no where near as much as a holset a holset was made to be on a diesel everything on a diesel weighs more think about it, not only that the actual designs between the two are so different there shouldnt be really any comparison. Come on guys give it chance he bought it he is obviously gonna use it try it out or what have you, try and be a lil more optimistic. All these statements with no backing makes us all look more like the Honda owners you all like to bad mouth all the time.
Tyler

 

[dsmsucks]

Not to hijack the thread but why is the 255 cheaper then the 190?

I never noticed that When I was shopping around both 255 and 190 was the same price???