oem vs top line rebuilt kit?

[EclipseGSX012]

Hey guys/girls i need your opinion on this one.

So i been researching and i finally bought a 6bolt shortblock so i could build the bottem end. So i been searching on the fourm and alot of ppls used oem or top line. I really didnt see much complain with oem parts, But top line i got mixed opinions some ppls said its good and some ppls said they had a bad experince with it.

so i would like to know if you guys rebuilt the motor which part did you use to rebuild the motor? OEM or Top line? also i would like to know since the rebuild what is the milage on your car.

Thank you

Which rebuilt kit did you use?
1. OEM
2.TOP LINE

oh yeah i did search for past 2 week.

 

[TurboChrged93]

oeM

topline

 

[TSIfreek]

OEM Yes its 4 times better I would never use top line shit when building a motor.

 

[destruckeclipse]

My friend had a very bad problem with the top line rebuild kit, needless to say he just ended up wasting his $$ and spending more to buy the oem kit.

 

[highintenzity4]

I think slowboy uses topline... What kind of rebuild are you guys talking about? Gaskets, pistons and rods, oil pump?

 

[boostedinaz]

If you can get your local dealer to give you a club DSM discount then you can get OEM stuff for the price of Topline and never have to worry about it.

Everywere I looked people wanted over 200.00 for a complete gasket kit. The only cheaper price was 170.00 for Topline. I went to the dealer and asked what my cost was for it and it was 160.00 out the door in three days.

As far as pistons and bearings I would go for nothing but OEM. Most the time the cheap route ends up being the first in a line of fixes. I have no doubts what so ever that my OEM rebuild will fire up all the time with no leaks and will run for along time.

 

[clownface]

I just paid $130 for a full top and bottom Top Line gasket only rebuild kit from slowboy off ebay, i was happy about the price but now after finding this post im worried that ive paid for shitty gaskets. guess ill find out haha

 

[highintenzity4]

I bought a full gasket gasket kit by topline from slowboy.. I also bought the top line oil pump. Hope its good.

 

[staticbrainwash]

so wait. . . OEM makes a engine rebuild kit much like the topline kit?

if so, I'm going to go OEM for my rebuild. im talking gaskets, valve seals, postions/rings, ect.

 

[boostedinaz]

so wait. . . OEM makes a engine rebuild kit much like the topline kit?

if so, I'm going to go OEM for my rebuild. im talking gaskets, valve seals, postions/rings, ect.

Its not really a kit, just all the parts that you need. You really just need a full engine gasket kit, pistons for the size bore you end up with, and bearings. Those are the basics but depending on what you are doing with thew motor you may need more.

 

[staticbrainwash]

just a nice solid rebuild. . . i've got leaking valve seals, and i figure why not just replace rings and gaskets and whatnot while im at it. im pretty sure my cylinder walls are ok so i don't think i need to rebore them out. but who knows what ill be looking at once i get everything out.
also, if i do need to rebore, do i have to pull the motor? or can they do it in the car?

so if i could buy it as a set or "kit" that would be nice.

does that also come with turbo seals? cuz i wouldn't mind doing a small rebuild on my turbo too. . . or at least just the gaskets and seals.

 

[half-cocked]

I rebuilt my 6 bolt using the topline gasket set and front case. Works flawlessly, the only oil leak I had was the oil return line, which was was an OEM gasket, hmm WTF . I chalked it up to operator error. Bottom line is there are engines running more horsepower than anyone in this thread using the topline kit. I have rebuilt a few engines using topline products and never had a problem. Now I do hear of isolated reports of the oil pump sprocket wearing away the actual front case, but I haven't experienced it first hand. Topline isn't some fly by night company either, open a Summit catalog and look for Pro Topline cylinder heads and the such, same company. While your in the Summit catalog look for the Rock Products 4G63 gasket set for $90 or the Mr. Gasket set for $125.

 

[half-cocked]

just a nice solid rebuild. . . i've got leaking valve seals, and i figure why not just replace rings and gaskets and whatnot while im at it. im pretty sure my cylinder walls are ok so i don't think i need to rebore them out. but who knows what ill be looking at once i get everything out.
also, if i do need to rebore, do i have to pull the motor? or can they do it in the car?

so if i could buy it as a set or "kit" that would be nice.

does that also come with turbo seals? cuz i wouldn't mind doing a small rebuild on my turbo too. . . or at least just the gaskets and seals.

The topline kit includes the gaskets, front case, bearings, fasteners, and pistons. The factory does not offer a kit like that. The price tag on the topline kit is around $500, the gasket set and oil pump will cost you more than that from mitsu. The topline kits can handle just about anything you can throw at the stock components with maybe the exception of the head gasket. If you are going to use this kit, just pull the engine and rebuild it. Pulling the engine out is alot easier than trying to do everything with the block in the car. And no it doesn't include turbo parts. Try Forced Performance for those.

 

[jott5555]

i built my 6bolt w/ topline gaskets, i used clevite bearings and ross/eagle combo but im totaolly impressed with the kit. all the gaskets are good quality and i liked thier set.

 

[EclipseGSX012]

Its not really a kit, just all the parts that you need. You really just need a full engine gasket kit, pistons for the size bore you end up with, and bearings. Those are the basics but depending on what you are doing with thew motor you may need more.

Hey boostedinaz I'm going to get my shortblock rebuild soon. I was thinking about going with 2g piston bore over .020, with 1g big rod. I mean for maybe 1-2 years its going to be stock other than bolt on parts like exhaust, intake, maybe turbo upgrade. So i should get oem rebuild parts right? Only reason why i post the poll up because im tight with the money at the moment but i mite just get the block build and just leave at my garage until i save up enough money. So top line is out of my question? or could i use some of the top line parts?

Oh yeah also i have talon and could i get parts from
http://www.cars.com/sanrafaelmitsubishi/
& http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=213934

with my Vin#?

 

[4GSixty3]

topline headgaskets = garbage

 

[boostedinaz]

Hey boostedinaz I'm going to get my shortblock rebuild soon. I was thinking about going with 2g piston bore over .020, with 1g big rod. I mean for maybe 1-2 years its going to be stock other than bolt on parts like exhaust, intake, maybe turbo upgrade. So i should get oem rebuild parts right? Only reason why i post the poll up because im tight with the money at the moment but i mite just get the block build and just leave at my garage until i save up enough money. So top line is out of my question? or could i use some of the top line parts?

Oh yeah also i have talon and could i get parts from
http://www.cars.com/sanrafaelmitsubishi/
& http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=213934

with my Vin#?

I look at it this way. Even the guy, Half Cocked, that is having good luck so far has heard of the Topline stuff failing. Do you want to take the chance that your car could be the one that failed? I wouldn't, and that is why I went with OEM.

 

[EclipseGSX012]

I look at it this way. Even the guy, Half Cocked, that is having good luck so far has heard of the Topline stuff failing. Do you want to take the chance that your car could be the one that failed? I wouldn't, and that is why I went with OEM.

oh yeah i dont want the car to fail on me thats why i want to get a oem parts to rebuild the shortblock. Also could i use my talon vin # to purchase mitsu oem parts?

 

[highintenzity4]

Im talking about topline gaskets. I have a cometic mls head gasket though. How can they fail? If they have failed so much why do major companies like machv and slowboy sell them? What about topline oil pump?

 

[OverboostXS]

Topline is no good. My family owns a machine shop and topline brings back more motors then anything else. Rock is another name for identical topline part.

 

[HighPsi92GST]

I know this thread is somewhat old but want to add my opinion.

I have rebuilt several engines, mostly my own but some for others, and have never had problems with Topline gaskets. I would NOT use the oil pump or head gasket that comes from Topline though as I just don't trust them. I have used topline pistons/rings before with no problems but on most rebuilds go with oem pistons as well. The failures everyone hears about are usually from the head gasket or the oil pump. The head gasket just simply isnt stong enough, especially for a turbo dsm pushing any kind of boost.

 

[gsxeclipsed]

I have only heard bad things about the so called Top Line rebuild it. I think it should be middle of the line or even bottom.

 

[EclipseGSX012]

everyone has a different opinion about every parts... Even tho it mite be know company but they might fail on you for some reason....

so update are i did go with...

oem gaskets sets
oem water pump
oem front crase w/gears

pretty much everything oem other than pistons and the bearing sets...

i got ross piston and i got topline bearing sets.

but i really think that why not spend extra cash and buy oem parts and be little bit on safer side..

 

[-red97rum-]

I received a Topline "overhaul" gasket set as a gift. Most of the gaskets looked fine but... I didn't trust the paper gasket they provide for the front case/oil pump. Norco mitsu gives a good club dsm discount so I jetted over there and picked up a front case gasket, rear main seal/housing gasket, front crank seal, and an oil pump shaft seal. Those seemed like they would be the biggest pain's in the ass to fix if something went wrong so I went with oem. Shit, my stock motor had 107,000 miles with no leaks so that's gotta be telling you something. I might not have had any problems with the toplines, but I'm not taking any chances. Just my .02

Cheers,

Dustin

 

[HighPsi92GST]

MOST of the gaskets in a top line kit, if you through them into a set of mitsu gaskets, you wont be able to tell the difference between the two. Thats most though, the head gasket is definitly not one of them !