DSM T3/T4 turbo kit on Ebay

[mhockeyjock]

Just woundering if you guys could tell me if this kit seems worth the dough. The kit is curently bidding at $306 with the by it now option of $750. Let me know what you think... Ebay item # 7916979852

thanx,

Mark

Kit includes;

DSM Master power T3/T4 Turbo
Tubular SS 4g63 manifold
38mm Wastgate
50mm Blow off valve
Gaskets
BOV Flange
Wastegate flange
Barbs and fittings and adapters
bolts



T3/T4 turbo specs;

.70A/R--.84 Hot side
Stage III wheel
Masterpower cast housing
3" inlet diameter
2.5" Outlet
Wet floating bearings
1/8 NPT oil inlet
balanced and blueprinted and compression tested​

 

[14.5 drift]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7916979852

 

[14.5 drift]

The sr20 guys say their manifolds are the suxxxor

 

[boostedinaz]

They whole thing looks cheesy. Those have to be knock off Tail items casue the BOV alone is 200.00 or so and the WG is 340.00 plus that mani and turbo. Somwething is up.

i know it seems nice to try and save money by going with items liek these but you will just make it harder on yourself. If you go to a reputable DSM vendor you will be alot happier in the long run.

 

[mhockeyjock]

Suxxour (SP) meaning BAD or ....

 

[mhockeyjock]

Thats what I was thinking because all the pieces individually are no name knock offs. Thas a shame b/c i was hoping it would be legit... Oh well

Thanx for all the replies.


Mark

 

[DannyD]

Yes, the manifold is bad. It only took a few weeks to crack on a friends civic. He thought it would be better than the manifold that he had before, because it had less welds, but it wasn't.

 

[mhockeyjock]

Have any idea about the turbo itself? The seller has turbos listed for like $350 for a supposed T3/T4.

 

[CanadianTalon]

The turbo is good, I've run master power turbos in the past and they worked great. I had a Master Powe 62-1 on my car before I upgraded to the T67, and I had no trouble with it. SSautoshit manifolds suck, they crack and are made of very thin wall tubing, I would NOT run one on my car.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Hmm, split T3 .84 turbine housing? How about too big!




"Master Power turbos! braught to you by the same people that make the cheesy Old Kung Fu B movies"


And Knock off tial wastegate and blow off valve? Nice! :thumbdown

 

[Talonman]

The main proglem with the header is it looks like they welded the wrong side of the runner where they leave teh head flange. Runners should be pushed thru the flange then welded on the back side (facing the block), then grinded down flat to seal against the head. This reduces the chance of cracking right where the runner meets the head.

 

[illeagle_talon]

I'd have to agree. Any power gains you might have would be drowned out by reliability issues. Remember, you get what you pay for.....hmm usually.

 

[DSMJim]

Typical SSAutochrome piece of shit. Fake Tial gate and BOV. Cheap turbo from Brazil which is a knock off piece of crap, stupid ass OBX turbo turbo manifold with thin tubing.

All those parts are worth about $80 from Taiwan, if you pay more then that your getting riped off. Good to hang from your neck to show your boys you have ICE. Don't use it on your car however.

 

[mhockeyjock]

Thanx for the info, guys. Looks like the search continues for me . Im looking for atleast a stage 1 kit so any info would be great, thanx again...

Mark

 

[EclipseOwner95]

since when is a tial wg 340 dollars ?? there 215 shipped from nolimitmotorsports

 

[boostedinaz]

since when is a tial wg 340 dollars ?? there 215 shipped from nolimitmotorsports

I was just tossing out prices I didnt look them up and quote him a price.

Either way that turbo kit is crap and I wouldnt give it to a an enemy.

 

[coltboostin]

Master Power turbos are full garret's with a master power compressor cover. So if you dint like full garret turbo's, I guess you (DSMjim) sould rip yours right off because you have a garret center and garret wheels. What a peice eh?

 

[boostedinaz]

Master Power turbos are full garret's with a master power compressor cover. So if you dint like full garret turbo's, I guess you (DSMjim) sould rip yours right off because you have a garret center and garret wheels. What a peice eh?

It has more to do with it than that. My buddies tranny is stock and grinds gears. I just got mine back from Shep, but they are made by Mitsu so are they the same? No, becasue it doesnt have to do with just parts. It has to do with reputation and the quliaty of the person building and putting it together. So if it the same exact thing then why have they magically found the absolute cheapest price for a Garret turbo yet FP, PTE, and AGP cant get those good of deals?

 

[CanadianTalon]

It has more to do with it than that. My buddies tranny is stock and grinds gears. I just got mine back from Shep, but they are made by Mitsu so are they the same? No, becasue it doesnt have to do with just parts. It has to do with reputation and the quliaty of the person building and putting it together. So if it the same exact thing then why have they magically found the absolute cheapest price for a Garret turbo yet FP, PTE, and AGP cant get those good of deals?

They do not use garrett center sections, they do use garrett wheels. Just because they are cheap DOES NOT mean they're low quality, they've been making and selling turbos in brazil for quite a while now.

 

[boostedinaz]

They do not use garrett center sections, they do use garrett wheels. Just because they are cheap DOES NOT mean they're low quality, they've been making and selling turbos in brazil for quite a while now.

I look at it this way. There are alot of people/companies that make turbos for all kinds of cars. Some have been around awhile and other have not. I would rather spend a few extra dollars on a turbo that has not only been proven but comes from a company that stands by its products. This place may make the greatest turbos ever, but in the DSM community they havent been proven or even been a widely used brand. You could take the chance buying a cheaper (proce wise) turbo but if something happens then he has to deal with this company who may not know DSMs that well or it may take awhile becasue they are based out of Brazil. Those are the things that would keep me from buying this wether or not they make a good product. I can buy a 3052 and know I will not have a problem and if I do it will be taken care of fast and with little or no problems.

Poeple seem to forget that there are other things to consider when purchasing goods. Either way Garret has been around for ever and they are the most proven turbo parts dealer ever. So why go somewere else to save a buck?? Just my .02

 

[coltboostin]

It has more to do with it than that. My buddies tranny is stock and grinds gears. I just got mine back from Shep, but they are made by Mitsu so are they the same? No, becasue it doesnt have to do with just parts. It has to do with reputation and the quliaty of the person building and putting it together. So if it the same exact thing then why have they magically found the absolute cheapest price for a Garret turbo yet FP, PTE, and AGP cant get those good of deals?

Yes, the gears in your tranny are the same, so yes, it is the same. Of corse a broke tranny will not function as well as a new tranny, but you both have the same tranny, bad comparo. Shep dpes things to the tranny and uses gears that I cannot disclose, but THEY ARE ALL STOCK PARTS.

As for Master power, I have rebuilt one and whitnessed 2 others getting reseals, and do you know what kit is used? Garret 360 deg. thurst kits, and Garret seals. thats odd, being that it is not a garret right?

I agree 100% about them being unproven turbos, but I dont agree with saying they are junk because they have not been run on DSM's for 10 years. I have witnesses them, they work great, and have no issues outside of normal turbo wear. What you get for the price you pay is an amazing bargan.

 

[boostedinaz]

Yes, the gears in your tranny are the same, so yes, it is the same. Of corse a broke tranny will not function as well as a new tranny, but you both have the same tranny, bad comparo. Shep dpes things to the tranny and uses gears that I cannot disclose, but THEY ARE ALL STOCK PARTS.

As for Master power, I have rebuilt one and whitnessed 2 others getting reseals, and do you know what kit is used? Garret 360 deg. thurst kits, and Garret seals. thats odd, being that it is not a garret right?

I agree 100% about them being unproven turbos, but I dont agree with saying they are junk because they have not been run on DSM's for 10 years. I have witnesses them, they work great, and have no issues outside of normal turbo wear. What you get for the price you pay is an amazing bargan.

There is a difference between something that is mass produced or pupmed out quickly and something that has a ton a reasearch and put to gether by hand. I have a feeling, just the like my Shep tranny, that even though "they are the same" that most people will take the better know more proven part. There is a reason they are proven and that is because those poeple that make them work and use good parts. Plus you cant for get the little trick s that they do that really make a big difference.

You like then, I dont. That is that.

 

[DSMJim]

Master Power turbos are full garret's with a master power compressor cover. So if you dint like full garret turbo's, I guess you (DSMjim) sould rip yours right off because you have a garret center and garret wheels. What a peice eh?

Mastapower turbos are junk. I have used them they are just crapola from brazil. Don't believe me? buy one and use it you will see. That turbo is about $125 landed in the U.S. wholesale. The parts are low quality. Been there done that. :thumbdown

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

The exhuast housing on that turbo looks like it would be better suited for a power stroke diesel...

 

[coltboostin]

Lets get this straight.

I am not saying I love master power turbo's , I was just stating the facts. I have resealed and rebearing them, and they are Garret Centers. I have seen them run well and last. They are cheap. If I had the money I would buy the full ball bearing bling machines from FP or anyone else, but if money is tight, these are not a bad buy. DSM guys are funny in the respect that many of us think that if it is not the most expensive part, it is not the best, or even junk.
This is obviously wrong, and I am saying dont dismiss somthing you have never heard of befor.