Good idea to get a bare block to swap into my 2g?

[Hobbes =^.^=]

I am planning to have this swapped into my 2g along with the 1g head, and getting the engine built. So I thought that a bare block would be a good idea. However I talked to the people who were going to help me swap this motor in and they said it would not be a good idea since it will be missing alot of bolts and other things. And in the end it will ultimately cost more. Should I go for it or not?

Also how difficult is it to build the engine yourself. I am no mechanic, and don't have in depth knowledge of these engines. Instead of the money going into labor, I could use that to upgrade some more. Can someone with just a manual/guide do it? I would just like to know since I would like to save some money is possible, and also learn something in the process.

Thanks for your help.

 

[OMN_DSM]

Yeah buy the bare block, it's a deal that you can't pass up! J/K
You probably are better off finding a complete engine. Anyway, keep us posted on what you come up with. Also, what do you plan on using for pistons and rods and such?

Mike

 

[Violater101]

Out of curiosity, why the 1g head. If you port out the 2g head, its supposedly equal to if not better than the 1g head. Just a thought.

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

Originally posted by OMN_DSM
Yeah buy the bare block, it's a deal that you can't pass up! J/K
You probably are better off finding a complete engine. Anyway, keep us posted on what you come up with. Also, what do you plan on using for pistons and rods and such?

Mike

gRrrrr...

I think I may buy that engine that you told me about. I'll let you know if I get it or not. Since it is a 7-bolt it should drop in no problem. woohoo

Even if you port thr 2g head, the 1g head will still flow more.

 

[Violater101]

If that's the case, then why are all the big dog's like Glazar Rau etc running 2g heads then??? Stock for Stock the 1g head is better, but the 1g walls are thinner than the 2g. With good port work, the 2g head will flow more. The reason why is that you can port out the 2g head more due to the walls being thicker.

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

You are right, I must of read some information wrong. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[OMN_DSM]

Well, if this info is true we need to go change the vfaq on it. It is to my understanding that it take extreme porting to get the head to flow the same as a 1G mabey a little better, but with minor porting the 1G head will flow better that an extreme ported 2G head. If I'm wrong please show me the info. and I don't want to hear that Glazar does it, because he does alot of stuff that we shouldn't because we drive ours daily.

Mike

 

[Violater101]

Didn't mean to start a war here, I was just pointing some stuff out. The reason why I said what I did was because I've been told from various sources that the 2g head is better when fully ported. I won't mention names. The reason WHY its better is because you leave the more of the walls intact and it will still flow the same as a 1g, not necessarily better though. If that's what the VFAQ says, then maybe my sources are wrong and I apologize. Anyone else not heard of this? I guess for his application, he would be better off going with a 1g head since I doubt he will be doing some extreme porting.

 

[OMN_DSM]

No war! We where both pointing out what we know whether who is right or wrong . But the way I look at it is when was the last time you saw a guy put a 2G head on a 1G. Anyone have any flow numbers for these heads? I think the flow charts would probably help.

Mike

 

[Rob]

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11466

go here for the flow numbers on the 1g

I too thought of going with the 1g head but im thinking to get a used one and porting that one ive seen that there better in flow after porting and hold up better under high boost and one more thing just pops right on there and pow no extra parts to get or bolts. just my 2 cents

 

[Violater101]

It seems according to that thread that the intake is what sux It kills the flow of the head regardless if its ported or not.

 

[2badrotties]

I have a engine for sale in the classifieds that you might be interested in. It's a 7 bolt out of a 93. Needs rings and bearings. This engine did not blow up it was just tired out. It is very clean inside. You could hone the block, put rings and bearings in for a couple hundred bucks. I will sell the short block for $200 or you could have the whole thing head and all the parts for $400. I live in N.Y. so you could pick it up and save some money on shipping. I just thought I'd mention it, I don't know if you check the classifieds. The Head is pretty fresh and off of the block so you could check the block out pretty easily.