Demonix
15+ Year Contributor
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- Jul 10, 2003
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Sacramento,
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After reading through some of the more recent threads and posts, I felt that something needed to be said about a problem that is escalating out of control.
This forum is degrading into a flame fest. People fail to appreciate this forum, or the community. Instead, they intentionally start arguments by brewing negativity at every turn. They degrade this forum and its reputation every time they do it and they don't seem to care. There is a word for this, it's called disrespect. Ask yourself, do you really appreciate what is given to you? If you truly appreciated DSM Tuners then you wouldnt choose to tarnish its reputation by starting a flame war whenever you can.
The name of this forum is Non-Performance Mods, expect to see body kits, expect to see wings, expect to see wild paint schemes, because guess what, theyre all non-performance mods. It really annoys me that some people here act shocked and appalled when they see this type of thing. If you only think the eclipse looks good completely stock, then you have no reason to post here. Obviously, all your comments are going to be negative, therefore you arent helping anyone; you are post whoring and wasting the thread starters time. Personally, I appreciate how the eclipse looks stock, some nice rims, a drop, and I am happy. That being said, I dont post here often but I do like to read this forum. I dont believe that Body Kits and Wings are ugly, they just arent my style. I rarely post here because I cant contribute my opinion if it is a bias one. When I read a post, and the thread starter asks for my opinion of his new body kit, I take a moment to think about it. Can I offer any constructive criticism, or is my opinion just bias because its a body kit? If it is the later, then there is no point in me replying to the thread, my opinion means little, because I didnt really examine the body kit and formulate an honest opinion. I just looked at it and thought Its just a body kit, bleh
Sometimes I feel that I can offer a good opinion or constructive criticism, which is the only time I choose to reply. Here is an example of that type of situation. A person has a car with a curvy body kit, said person mounts a square-type, boxy wing, then asks for opinions. Well, now I have something to offer. I can reply telling him that his new wing clashes with the curviness of the body kit. However, there are two ways for me to do this, a wrong way, and the right way. The wrong would be negative criticism; the right way would be constructive criticism. Here are examples of extremely negative criticism (which is common here), and positive constructive criticism.
Negative Criticism: I dont know what is uglier, the body kit or the wing. You should take both of them off, your whole car looks like crap.
Constructive Criticism: The sharp corners and edges really clash with the curviness of the body kit. I think you should remove it and find a new wing that flows better with the body kit.
There is always more then one way to say something. It really comes down to that old saying that your elders always told you. If you cant say anything nice, dont say anything at all. Now, I am not implying that everyone throw out insincere compliments to each other. Im just saying there is always another way to say something. So if you are going to express a negative reaction to something, you can at least find a nice and constructive way to do it, by doing so you show respect for this forum, its community, and its reputation. Not only that, its etiquette. Remember, regardless of how you feel about that body kit, wing, or those altezzas, that person worked hard to earn everything on his or her car. How would you feel if you worked hard to save enough money for a painting that you thought was absolutely amazing, you finally get and you want to share it with everyone. You show it to me, and I tell you Thats ugly as hell! I cant believe you wasted all that money for that piece of crap. Not only is that an asshole thing to say, but how can I say that? Its art, everyones opinion of it is different. Its no different than saying something similar about a persons car. What does a comment like that say about you as a person? Ill tell you, it says that you think your opinion is gold and it must be heard regardless of how it will make the person feel. Therefore you are egotistical, selfish, and inconsiderate. All of those things are a product of Immaturity, and if you are old enough to drive a car there is no reason to be immature. I'm 18 years old, but I choose to act more mature, or older, because I feel it makes me a better person. You are who you choose to be, so why not choose to be a better person?
Ask yourself why you come to the non-performance mods forum. Personally I enjoy coming here so I can see pictures of what people spend their time on. Although I wouldnt do a lot of it, it doesnt mean I dont find it visually impressive. Just like I dont paint, but I enjoy art. If you come here to make fun of peoples time and money for a laugh, please leave. If you come here to voice the same opinion of everything, over and over, please leave now.
Finally, if youve come for advice, to share pictures, or just to enjoy seeing things you may not see every day, then
Welcome to the Non-Performance Mods section!
This forum is degrading into a flame fest. People fail to appreciate this forum, or the community. Instead, they intentionally start arguments by brewing negativity at every turn. They degrade this forum and its reputation every time they do it and they don't seem to care. There is a word for this, it's called disrespect. Ask yourself, do you really appreciate what is given to you? If you truly appreciated DSM Tuners then you wouldnt choose to tarnish its reputation by starting a flame war whenever you can.
The name of this forum is Non-Performance Mods, expect to see body kits, expect to see wings, expect to see wild paint schemes, because guess what, theyre all non-performance mods. It really annoys me that some people here act shocked and appalled when they see this type of thing. If you only think the eclipse looks good completely stock, then you have no reason to post here. Obviously, all your comments are going to be negative, therefore you arent helping anyone; you are post whoring and wasting the thread starters time. Personally, I appreciate how the eclipse looks stock, some nice rims, a drop, and I am happy. That being said, I dont post here often but I do like to read this forum. I dont believe that Body Kits and Wings are ugly, they just arent my style. I rarely post here because I cant contribute my opinion if it is a bias one. When I read a post, and the thread starter asks for my opinion of his new body kit, I take a moment to think about it. Can I offer any constructive criticism, or is my opinion just bias because its a body kit? If it is the later, then there is no point in me replying to the thread, my opinion means little, because I didnt really examine the body kit and formulate an honest opinion. I just looked at it and thought Its just a body kit, bleh
Sometimes I feel that I can offer a good opinion or constructive criticism, which is the only time I choose to reply. Here is an example of that type of situation. A person has a car with a curvy body kit, said person mounts a square-type, boxy wing, then asks for opinions. Well, now I have something to offer. I can reply telling him that his new wing clashes with the curviness of the body kit. However, there are two ways for me to do this, a wrong way, and the right way. The wrong would be negative criticism; the right way would be constructive criticism. Here are examples of extremely negative criticism (which is common here), and positive constructive criticism.
Negative Criticism: I dont know what is uglier, the body kit or the wing. You should take both of them off, your whole car looks like crap.
Constructive Criticism: The sharp corners and edges really clash with the curviness of the body kit. I think you should remove it and find a new wing that flows better with the body kit.
There is always more then one way to say something. It really comes down to that old saying that your elders always told you. If you cant say anything nice, dont say anything at all. Now, I am not implying that everyone throw out insincere compliments to each other. Im just saying there is always another way to say something. So if you are going to express a negative reaction to something, you can at least find a nice and constructive way to do it, by doing so you show respect for this forum, its community, and its reputation. Not only that, its etiquette. Remember, regardless of how you feel about that body kit, wing, or those altezzas, that person worked hard to earn everything on his or her car. How would you feel if you worked hard to save enough money for a painting that you thought was absolutely amazing, you finally get and you want to share it with everyone. You show it to me, and I tell you Thats ugly as hell! I cant believe you wasted all that money for that piece of crap. Not only is that an asshole thing to say, but how can I say that? Its art, everyones opinion of it is different. Its no different than saying something similar about a persons car. What does a comment like that say about you as a person? Ill tell you, it says that you think your opinion is gold and it must be heard regardless of how it will make the person feel. Therefore you are egotistical, selfish, and inconsiderate. All of those things are a product of Immaturity, and if you are old enough to drive a car there is no reason to be immature. I'm 18 years old, but I choose to act more mature, or older, because I feel it makes me a better person. You are who you choose to be, so why not choose to be a better person?
Ask yourself why you come to the non-performance mods forum. Personally I enjoy coming here so I can see pictures of what people spend their time on. Although I wouldnt do a lot of it, it doesnt mean I dont find it visually impressive. Just like I dont paint, but I enjoy art. If you come here to make fun of peoples time and money for a laugh, please leave. If you come here to voice the same opinion of everything, over and over, please leave now.
Finally, if youve come for advice, to share pictures, or just to enjoy seeing things you may not see every day, then
Welcome to the Non-Performance Mods section!
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