Custom chameleon paint help

[RoryBarron]

I am looking for some experienced paint and body guys to help me with a paint job I want. Basically it is a silver basecoat with chameleon overcoat. I got the idea from a silver evo I saw online, though the owner that painted it that way isn't much for sharing how he did it. Here is a link to an article that shows the effect I am wanting to achieve.

 

[idoceclipse]

What are you wanting to know? I work at a body shop but I've never painted chameleon. I do have a co-worker that's currently in the process of doing chameleon on his fox body so i could ask him.

 

[RoryBarron]

What are you wanting to know? I work at a body shop but I've never painted chameleon. I do have a co-worker that's currently in the process of doing chameleon on his fox body so i could ask him.

Basically what kind of mix am i looking at of clear and chameleon to be able to paint it over a silver basecoat so it is still silver but has the color change effect in sunlight. Make sense? All the info I find is for painting it over a black basecoat, the car I am painting is silver and I don't want to paint jams and the bay so this is a good compromise where everything will still match up but get the effect I want!

 

[Breezio69]

Would it kind of be like using a colored pearl clear coat? I know they make a tri color pearl that they shoot on newer Lexus's. Blue purple and green... my buddy has a white lexus with that pearl and its amazing to look at in the sun with all the body lines on the 250's.

Other than that I thought the chameleon was a full job from the base coat to clear? Im not too familiar with it, so I was just throwing out that suggestion with the pearl...

 

[Tim_I]

my Accord is House of Color chameleon. its a black base coat with 7 grams of dry pearl mixed into the clear coat.

 

[RoryBarron]

my Accord is House of Color chameleon. its a black base coat with 7 grams of dry pearl mixed into the clear coat.

Not trying to be rude, but this isn't really helpful as I am using a silver basecoat. If I were using a black basecoat I'd have much more info.

 

[idoceclipse]

I haven't had a chance to talk to my co-worker yet but from my understanding, you lay down your base coat, then you lay down your chameleon which is a just a pretty much a pearl top coat. Then you do spray a clear coat over that. I may be wrong on all of that though. Ppg makes several different types of chameloeon with different color changes. I would look on their website to it might give tips or instructions to get the affect you want.

 

[stracer107]

A true chameleon paint job is like 3-7 coats of different paint ( special paint). That evolution looks like a silver base with a custom mid coat (pearl) then clear. You would have to have a mid coat made by your local paint jobber they can add amy color and amount of pearl you want. To get it close to the evolution you would have to do several wet down panels with different mod coats keeping track of what is what. I hope you have deep pockets cause if you don't know what you are doing it will add up fast. I hope this helps you

 

[RoryBarron]

Thanks guys, it's definitely a start! I am gonna email house of kolor paints and see if they have any experience with silvers and chameleon. I noticed they seem to have samples with yellows and blues as the basecoat. I don't really want to pay their prices but at least it isn't something I will have to do more than once (hopefully)!

 

[stracer107]

If you use house of color use all there products there paint is made to be used with there clear. They put almost all of there uv protection in the clear other companies do a 50 50 protection in clear and base. I like there products, but dupont is another really good product and has a lot of options to chose from.

 

[idoceclipse]

Got to talk to mh co-worker today about it. He said you use a black base coat because anything lighter the chameloen has a hard time covering. Its going to cost you a pretty penny he said he's almost 4k in materials alone.

 

[AK Maniak]

I normally hate flashy paint jobs like that but for some reason I absolutely love that look on the that evo.

 

[Breezio69]

Got to talk to mh co-worker today about it. He said you use a black base coat because anything lighter the chameloen has a hard time covering. Its going to cost you a pretty penny he said he's almost 4k in materials alone.

Thats why I was suggesting the tri color pearl. If you use enough product in the clear you'll get the same effect for probably 1/4 the cost.

Id look into that paint code from Lexus

 

[stracer107]

There is only so much flop you can get from a pearl midcoat. But yes it is doable. It'll take a lot of time and spraying to get the same effect.