Stop Rice-ism

[SnoopySLR]

The more I'm on this site, and out in the community, the more I hate the term "rice". What is rice? Is it stuff from autozone or is it stuff on someone's car you don't like. I've seen some of the coolest mods on this site. Like the "custom angel eyes" that SHUWA29 built. Those are sweet, but there is some who think because they're originaly on a BMW that thats RICE. I don't understand.

I wish everyone would realize that cars arn't meant to just go fast. I'm not saying in any way that Show Cars are better. I just wish people with fast cars would not look down on people with N/T's and body kits. Everyone wishes they could run under 12 sec, but not everyone can. I also wish the war between the 4G63 and 420a would call a truce (I don't want to say any more).

For those who are concerned about what other people think, don't worry what anyone else thinks. If you like it, do it. If you think it looks cool, thats all that matters. I see working on cars as an art. Everyone should be original. Now if you have the same body kit or something someone else has, thats ok. Just make sure your motive behind your car is not, "I want to look like that car."

Basically all I'm trying to say is, I wish we all could just get along. I wish people would stop having competitions outside of shows. I just had to post my .02

 

[98_silvergs]

This is rice

 

[Chuckt]

nicely said, im glad someone finally said it, i dont get how people can even call things in the non-performance board rice, and alot of the time its used way too often.

 

[SnoopySLR]

98_SilverGS, why is that rice? You have tinted windows, clear bumper lens, and I think an exhaust. What changed your car from "rice" to "not rice"? The wheels? The big rotors? A new spoiler? Everycar has to start somewhere.

 

[98_silvergs]

Its a non turbo, auto, so its considered rice to some users

 

[na90dsm]

rice is someone who puts a billion stickers they bought from pep-boys on there car and cut off the stock muffler and used nine billion spacers in the pipe to get the muffler to fit.put stickers on there car even though they dont have a single aftermarket part on the car and then rol around thinking there mario andretti with a fartcannon for a muffler.this is quite annoying.

and i agree every car has to start somewhere but if this is all you do to your car in like 3 years its rice.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by SnoopySLR
The more I'm on this site, and out in the community, the more I hate the term "rice". What is rice? Is it stuff from autozone or is it stuff on someone's car you don't like. I've seen some of the coolest mods on this site. Like the "custom angel eyes" that SHUWA29 built. Those are sweet, but there is some who think because they're originaly on a BMW that thats RICE. I don't understand.

I wish everyone would realize that cars arn't meant to just go fast. I'm not saying in any way that Show Cars are better. I just wish people with fast cars would not look down on people with N/T's and body kits. Everyone wishes they could run under 12 sec, but not everyone can. I also wish the war between the 4G63 and 420a would call a truce (I don't want to say any more).

For those who are concerned about what other people think, don't worry what anyone else thinks. If you like it, do it. If you think it looks cool, thats all that matters. I see working on cars as an art. Everyone should be original. Now if you have the same body kit or something someone else has, thats ok. Just make sure your motive behind your car is not, "I want to look like that car."

Basically all I'm trying to say is, I wish we all could just get along. I wish people would stop having competitions outside of shows. I just had to post my .02

BMW MAKES ANGEL EYES, therefore it's not rice.

You're putting angel eyes on a dsm, where they don't come factory, that is rice.

Obscene, ugly graphics are rice.

A park-bench wing on a FWD car is rice.

Any other comments?

 

[98_silvergs]

Double posting is rice

 

[bobgeorge]

i would probaly not call that rice i would call that stupid, after a few threads i have seen on this board, like honda vs. n/t dsm, and everyone says that hondas spank n/t, why not change the looks of a car if you want, apparently n/t auto dsm 's are not fast and never will be in the turbo world, we have to spend are money on something, for the record i do not have any exterior mods except wheels and tires, but i will never use the term rice, because each has their own ideas,

 

[chrysler kid]

yeah the wing on your car is wayyyyyyy to high, if it were lower i think it would look good, but it just looks out of place

 

[SnoopySLR]

OK Cucumber, then what your saying is, if it comes on a differant car and you put it on your car, thats rice. And having a graphic that YOU don't like, makes me rice. And my "park bench" makes me rice, too. Just because you don't like the look of my car makes me rice, huh.

 

[na90dsm]

but then again to american muscle car fans anything made in japan is rice.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by SnoopySLR
OK Cucumber, then what your saying is, if it comes on a differant car and you put it on your car, thats rice. And having a graphic that YOU don't like, makes me rice. And my "park bench" makes me rice, too. Just because you don't like the look of my car makes me rice, huh.

I think 90 percent of the board would agree that your car constitues as rice.

GRNDSM has a wing, but do I call him rice, NO.

He runs 10 second 1/4 mile times and road races so the wing serves a purpose.

 

[na90dsm]

no he is saying that anything that doesnt bel;ong on the car for a spesific purpose is rice.no need for a park bench on the back of a fwd car because the front wheels drive it.therefore you dont have to keep the back wheels on the ground.as for graphics,there over rated.yea there original,yea some can look cool,but you have to admit,most of the stuff you see on the street is nasty.looks very bad and doesnt belong there because of that.if you like yours great.i think it looks ok.no biggy.but he has his own oppinion too.at least your not rocking apc stickers and a big ugly 5 ft drop on the windsheild.

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by SnoopySLR
OK Cucumber, then what your saying is, if it comes on a differant car and you put it on your car, thats rice. And having a graphic that YOU don't like, makes me rice. And my "park bench" makes me rice, too. Just because you don't like the look of my car makes me rice, huh.

I think 90 percent of the board would agree that your car constitues as rice.

GRNDSM has a wing, but do I call him rice, NO.

He runs 10 second 1/4 mile times and road races so the wing serves a purpose.

 

[SnoopySLR]

Thank you cucumber. I'm rice. Maybe I should take my wing off, rip my graphic off, build my engine to run 10's, then put it all back on. I guess I HAVE to go speed first in order to not be rice.

I don't get it... I post this to encourage people to not bad mouth other peoples cars, and the stupid moderator gets on and bashes my ride. Well, I don't care. I like my wing and its staying on, I LOVE my graphic and that is deffinatly staying on. And I'll be running a turbo next year after I rebuild my engine this year.

 

[markGSX]

To me, any body appearance mod that is not factory is rice. Your car is rice. But why do you take offense to it? It is rice, just look at that ridiculous wing. If you're so offended by the term 'rice' then just take off that thing and return it to the park from which it came.

 

[98_silvergs]

Well this thread went to sh!t

 

[InfamousEclipse]

you said exactly how I feel man, well put.

 

[SnoopySLR]

no kidding

 

[dudasd]

It all comes down to what people "perceive" If someone doesn;t like it they will call it rice. Some people like things and some don't. So I guess that since my car didn't come stock with a turbo on it, then by adding that turbo in your terms Cucumber my car is now rice? Oh well, me and my rice mobile will be happy with all the Uncle Bens I can handle. You can say I am not getting the point, but you said it, and since by your law, an RS doesn't come with a factory turbo then I am amongst the ricers....

 

[markGSX]

I just want to know why people can't just accept the fact that they are rice. Admit to it. Whenever they hear their car called rice they just freak out. Just learn to admit your car is rice and you won't be so offended. Guess what, if everyone is calling your car rice and you're the only one who thinks it isn't, there is a very good chance it is.

 

[JJay]

:laugh: SnoopySLR I like your car man and I appreciate your ablity to create and establish your own style, however you are in the minority here at DSM tuners.com!

I love fixing up cars with Altezzas, bodykits, wild paint jobs, rims 18's 19's, Wings aluminum or Fiberglass, Carbon Fiber hoods and maybe sometimes even graphics, however here at DSM tuners most people here want a FAST Clean AWD Turbo DSM and sometimes not even with custom rims. Most guys here have no desire what so ever to ever change the cars original lines. They feel the car is perfect like it is and the only obvious fun thing to ever want to do is to make it faster. The only problem with that is it is of no use to you if you are not a hardcore track or street racer.
On the flipside wings, bodykits, graphics are the anti-christ to speed and tuner respectability. If you are a tuner you don't have any need to pimp and profile on 19's with a creative bodykit. This will be a nuisance to you and waste of money and energy. So the two hardly ever combine.

The one thing that I feel some hardcore tuners forget is if you don't have a turbo than obviously speed is not going to be more than likely your main goal anyway. Not to dis on non-turbo tuners please, but the AWD Turbo is the best to modify to be the street sleeper BEAST/racecar.
The only thing I think people should do is respect others preferences, but since that requires you to actually care about others don't expect that to happen. If you don't care about why people do what they do and don't respect it and don't have to or want to well............You are always going to get this is Rice and that is rice all the time. Personally I agree with your 2 cents worth, but it is falling on deaf ears except for a few.

Keep modifying your car the way you like and participate in the forums, but don't expect to get respect from tuners only into speed that is the reality of the state of things. I think they should respect customizing, but they don't have to and don't want to. What can you do except get over it and enjoy the hell out of what you do, but just because everybody calls it rice doesn't mean it is
I still think rice is a guy/girl who gets a car that is not even an import like a Chevy Cavalier bucket rusty and beat up, puts Nismo, Greddy and NOS stickers on it, A loud cat-back exhaust, a supra wing and tells everyone it beat a Skyline GT-R, C5 Corvette, 300ZX twin Turbo, Porsche 911 Turbo several times and drive it all the time like it is fast. The car is of course an automatic and they step on the brake and accelerator to pretend like it has wheelspin because it is soooooo fing fast. That is a real RICER

 

[JJay]

You said you don't know why people trip out/freak out about being called rice well it is obvious.......the answer is most people use rice in a negative connotation. If you say you are rice that means you are wrong and the way you do things is wrong and this is not the case. If you like to customize your car you are free to, but you cannot expect everybody to like your style.

All white people don't like hip/hop or rap music. All white people don't speak Russian, German or Spanish, but that does not mean those things or preferences for those things should not exist. All people any race don't like rice mods etc, but that does not mean they should not exist or can only be called or labeled as "Rice". I think there is problem with wanting to label something especially if it supposed to be bad. This is the heart of the arguement. You could say That is Latino style. Is that because you don't like it and you are saying it is bad? To me that is the same arguement with calling stuff rice. You could say that is ghetto style or that is ### style. So what does that really mean. It is negative? I have heard people say that is white-boy style. Why? Just because they don't like it or because they deem it is not worthy of being black enough or Japenese, or Arabic enough? We all have to respect each other and get away from labeling. This is silly and immature. Does everyone have to like the same things......NO! Plus this is not possible, but we can treat each other with EQUAL Respect!!! Riceism is similiar to Racism, but only in an automotive sense. It is segragating our DSMtuner community. We can be stronger united, but not if we hate each other because we all don't have the same exact likes or goals.

If you are oppossed against people liking styles or things you don't and you want to change their opinon on liking it something is wrong. You want to brainwash them. To me calling something rice is trying to establish that your way is better than this way. Go all out fast is better that customizing. It all depends on what you get enjoyment out of. Neither way is better!! If we all agree on that then it would be equal. All people want is to be equal. IF you say Rice is inferior and worse and not good and everything we all should not like than that is making a separation and saying one is the obvious better way and that is just WRONG.

It doesn't allow people to be who they want to be and be accepted no matter what. I think everybody just wants to enjoy modifying, but modifying is always going to be different things to different people. I still do and always think it is influenced by geographic area and how culture you are or are not exposed to. If you are exposed to different ways of doing things then you can except if people do something you don't like and you don't want to label it as something inferior because you don't like it.

You have to be human about your criticisms and have some tact on how you comment on things you don't have a preference for or don't like. As long as no one applies openminded thinking to customizing we will never agree on what rice is or isn't.

 

[ceniack]

to me bashing on someones car becaues of its appearance is borderline racisim. it is like hating someone who is black, white, asian, indian, swahelie, russian, etc... because of the color of their skin, or the language they speak. dissing someone because of their taste in style is rediculious. i don't call people who listen to country music kicks and rednecks just because i don't like thier taste in music. to some people going fast isn't important. some people might not have the technical know how, or access to someone that does have the know how to build an engine and tune their car. our cars are like a painters canvas. speed tuners see the symbolism of a painting while people that are primarily concerned with looks see a painting at face value.

if you don't like something, say it in a way that doesn't put someone on the defensive, offer constructive critisizim, or keep your pie-hole shut. we are here as a community to help one another, and it isn't the so called "ricers" that are runing the cred of the import comunity, it is all the freakin bickoring amongst one another.

and to all the haters that are saying they shoud havespent their money of performance mods instead of cosmetic mods, i say to you all, why don't you spend the money you spent on "power" mods and buy yourself some sense.

my .02 sense