Swirls swirls go away!

[trapspeed]

Come again another day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No matter what I do I _CANNOT_ get rid of these damned swirls. They're not even deep. I've tried different Meguiars Scratch/Swirl remover and nothing seems to help. It's making my car look like a piece of shit up close. They're just hairline swirls, I don't see how it could possibly be so damn hard to get rid of them. Please share your tips and techniques.

 

[9D9 MITSU RS]

try a mild buffing compound

 

[trapspeed]

I tried using a buffing compound and it left this circle haze mark on my car. Not good.

 

[9D9 MITSU RS]

Meguiar's makes a few yellow bottles for that. I'd take it to a shop and have them take a buffer to it.

 

[boostmaster123]

meguiars makes a product called swirl remover 2.0 that you use with a buffer. it got alot of swirls out of my car

 

[ootalipseoo]

do you know what the swirls are from?? most swirls you can get rid of with any wax or swirl remover but when you apply it, apply it in a counter clockqise circle, if its from a buffer or what not they spin clockwise so you gotta back track by hand. its alot of work but that should do it.


-Shane

 

[Seattle GST]

I would go to www.griotsgarage.com and do some reading, or get their detailers handbook for $12.95 it is pretty darn good. you will be suprised what you can do with a day.

 

[9D9 MITSU RS]

My bodyshop uses 3M polish. You need a buffer tho. Only people familiar with buffers should use them.

 

[4g63swap]

when I buffed my car after I painted I use heavy duty rubing compound, finness-it and imperial hand glaze.(all by 3m) it sounds like you just need to use a buffer and a little feness-it and then after that use the hand glaze. if you have never buffed a car I suggest having someone show You. you could easly burn through the paint if your not careful..
hope this helps

 

[Ballin' GS]

do you know what the swirls are from?? most swirls you can get rid of with any wax or swirl remover but when you apply it, apply it in a counter clockqise circle, if its from a buffer or what not they spin clockwise so you gotta back track by hand. its alot of work but that should do it.


-Shane

Thats terrible information. NEVER hand apply a finishing product in a circular motion. That is the worst way. You need to apply wax or polishes in a back and forth motion only going one way. If you apply in a circle and dirt or dust that gets in the wax or around the applicator (even stuff you can't see) will put swirls in the finish and when you apply in a circular motion the swirls are visible from 360 degrees. When you apply in a back and forth motion then the marks if any will only be visible from one angle. Go front to back on top of the car and in a top to bottom motion on the sides of the car. If you use a orbital buffer you will not see swirls in the paint because if it is dual motion it doesn't just spin around it also vibrates back and forth and will not allow a swirl to be produced. Try taking meguiars paint cleaner and then meguiars deep crystal polish and apply with an orbital buffer, then follow these with a hand coating of meguiars gold class paste wax. As long as you do this and put the wax on in a back and forth motion then you will have no swirls. If you still do then they are too deep to be removed.

 

[Ballin' GS]

Also how do you expect that going in an opposite direction in a circle will make the old swirl go away? If something puts a swirl in one way, how in the world are you supposed to take it out by going the other direction? That makes no sense.

 

[Defiant]

ah.... Coriolis effect?

 

[ootalipseoo]

might not make sense to you guys but being a detailer for 4 years thats the way I learn, I did, and never had any problems with the paint. always made the swirls go away. dont wax when your car is dirty, then no dirt, do it in a garage after you wash your car. but oh well if you dont believe me I dont care, I was just posting the way I learned and have always done.

 

[Ryans99OZ]

the way ive always done it:

-wash w/ soap and SOFT water thoroughly
-chamoise it dry
-use COLORED wax (my car is black so i use black wax) and apply any freakin way u want, i apply is a clockwise swirl motion
-let dry
-buff out with orbital buffer
-go over and get all details w/ a soft cloth by hand

ull be amazed at the lack of swirls....its not rocket science

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

Rubbing compound and polish will do it with a buffer. Most of those swirls come from washing and waxing your car.

 

[VOTBLINDUB]

wetsanding or repainting, thats it

 

[Ballin' GS]

No crap you wax it when its clean. Doesn't mean dust and dirt doesn't get on the paint when you are in the process of waxing it. And if you were honestly a detailer for 4 years, you would be agreeing with me right now, instead you suggesting a process that i've have never seen or heard of an experienced detailer use.

 

[Eclipse2NRGSnt]

hey i jus got 3M swirl mark remover and i dont have a buffer so i got to do it by hand but it says to do it in a circular motion so do i do it in a circular motion or should i do it a different way i dont want to mess my paint up please help

 

[Ballin' GS]

I would have bought an orbital buffer. But if it says circular for that stuff then i would go ahead. Just go back and forth and applying the wax and/or polish.

 

[spooner_dee]

i went to an auto body technical training school for 3 years to learn how to paint do body work, auto detailing, anything and everything involving the body and paint of a car, and i learned circles. when waxing or buffing do small areas keep moving dont apply too much pressure. when drying a car however you should never ever EVER dry in circles, even whith a shami (i cant spell ) thats how u really get ur swirl marks take ur shami (im sorry) fold in to fours so u have a nice thick pad and just lightly pull down from top to bottom, that will help reduce scratches and marks. To get rid of swirls you need RUBBING COMPOUND that will take out any surface scratch or swirl, and u need a buffer to get the full effect. after using the rubbing compound, then you do a nice wax job that will make the car shine and also help take away any and all haze that might be left over, but first be sure to get rid of as much haze as possible that the rubbing compound might leave behind, a very fine nice soft cloth with help.