dyno numbers

[siueclipse]

Ill post the sheets tomorrow when im at work cause i don't have a scanner here. Anyway...

The pull i did which i will use for racing was 250whp at 12psi of boost. I will use this setup for racing because the power was strong through the entire curve.

The highest horsepower was 264 at 13psi of boost. This power curve was a little rocky, i need larger injectors before going above 12psi of boost.

Anyway, looks like 264whp is the top for right now. Again, Ill post the actual sheets tomorrow some time.

If you want to view my list of mods, check out www.gsturbo.com and click "our cars" in the menu on the left.

James

 

[EvuLFleA]

Thats a lot of power! Did you get on o2 readout also?

 

[siueclipse]

unfortunatly, they don't have wideband. but i talked to the owner and he will be getting one eventually.. we did tuning though to get to the 264, but it was too lean really.

James

 

[siueclipse]

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[RSTsoon]

nice

 

[Strictlyimports]

need larger injectors before going above 12psi of boost.

How big of injectors are needed there ?
and not to mention NICE numbers of ur Ride . Keeep it up
peace

 

[siueclipse]

i want like 415's or 550's. i just don't want to have an idle problem

James

 

[legaleagle]

DAM, you spent over 8grand to gain not even 40 hp, . I guess if that is normal for a nt turned turbo then congrats. I just hope that I never see you trying to argue about the 4g engine not being a better platform to get good HP. Cause from what you have put up, all you really have is a money pit with a 264hp, about 50 more then stock on a 4g. Hell, you could have sold you car and took that money you spent and bought a 350z and only had a $10000 loan. But like everyone says, its your dough. Enjoy your ride bub.

***edit*** corrected a sentence.

 

[legaleagle]

BTW, sorry if it sounds like I am being a dick, Cause I really am not trying to, I just dont understand how with all that money invested and work done to the car that it is running such low numbers, I mean according to hahn, that is not even where the Stage 2 setup rates, and you pretty much have a stage 5. Again, sorry if I came off as an ass, I didnt mean too.

 

[siueclipse]

It just goes to show how little you know. I dont have a stage 5. With the proper tuning, the car will achieve higher numbers as it sits. You of all people should know you can't go buy what the manufactorer of a turbo kit says as far as HP is concerned. Didn't you know that by lower the compression you actually lose HP? 10lbs of boost on a stock motor compared to a motor with lower compression isn't going to produce the same numbers. I think 264hp on 13psi of boost is very good. Better than you do at 13psi of boost.

Dyno numbers really don't matter all that much because so much HP is actually lost compared to running on the street. Furthermore, I still have a better time then you do at the track.

You did come off as an asshole. Just shows your typical 4g63 asshole at work.

 

[legaleagle]

You dont have a stage 5? What do you have then? It sure the hell isnt a stage two, not with a 20g and a built bottom end. Your right though, I dont know what I am talking about, thats why you said you were running lean in this thread and then in another you are talking about how pig rich you are. You cant even tune your car dude. Oh well, I will go on living my cheap 4g63 lifestyle and have my 400hp while you can keep your $28000 gs with 260 hp. And your right you did get a better time, without the interior, without a hood, slicks, oh and your car wieghs about 300 pounds less then mine anyway. Oh yeah, you also have a 20g and built bottom end, what was your best number anyway, 9.0?? Hmm, on a t-28 I ran a 9.1. I wouldnt be too proud of you time there BUB considering what you have, that is slow. (just being a typical 4g @$$hole though.)

Goodluck with your car Bud, your goin to need it.

 

[siueclipse]

Dude, just go back under your rock. I nor anyone else in this forum needs your criticism.

You car? 400hp?

Oh wait.. thats right, all you do is drag cause you can't drive your car.. I was going to say lets go to an autocross.

 

[RSTsoon]

I mean really now, was it neccessary to come in ehre and make fun of his car and start another 4g63t vs 420a....its getting old, give him his props and move on.

 

[DSMNightmare]

Originally posted by siueclipse
Dude, just go back under your rock. I nor anyone else in this forum needs your criticism.

You car? 400hp?

Oh wait.. thats right, all you do is drag cause you can't drive your car.. I was going to say lets go to an autocross.

OK, I was going to stay out of this but the shits getting deep in here.

1. Your wrong legal he has over 10K in the car and only gaind 50HP

2. 13psi on your compression is closer to 15-17 on ours

3. I do need your critisizm. Finally someone has the grapes to say that for 10K plus those are some shit dyno numbers.

4. You did not run a faster time than legal James. you said your self that you had to pull all that crap off your car to pull that 9.08 or what ever you ran. You also said that you pulled a 9.3 when your car was fully dressed. Legal pulled a 9.1.

5. Odds are legal is putting down more than 260hp especially now. Even with the T28.

6. I would LOVE (and I do mean LOVE) to see you run that car with a 20G in a autocross event.

7. HP does not mean shit. I ran a 9.4 with a bone stock AWD. Does that mean I'm pushin close to 250hp because I can almost beat you James?

You come back with sub-par dyno numbers and expect everyone to think your a God? With the mods you have on that car you should be making much much more HP. Why the hell would you even tune a car on a dyno with pump gas and 13psi when you said it yourself that the car can handle 25psi with race gas.

 

[DSMNightmare]

Originally posted by RSTsoon
I mean really now, was it neccessary to come in ehre and make fun of his car and start another 4g63t vs 420a....its getting old, give him his props and move on.

You do realize that legal is just making a point. There are no props to give. Be honest RSTSoon... are you going to be happy if you spend 10,000+ dollars and all you come back with is 264hp? There are 4G63 guys running that exact same turbo that are putting down 400 to the wheels.

Impressed that he is going to the dyno and making an effort to get better... Yes that is impressive, but 264hp is not impressive with the money and time that has been spent on that car. He has been building it for almost 9 months now.

FACT: if you post your dyno sheets expect to be critisized. Why else would you post them with numbers that low?

 

[RSTsoon]

I know spening 10k and gaining 50hp would bust my balls but there is no reason to rag on the guy, maybe giving some tuning tips or asking him how the cars running or something...you guys fight too much...and it always seems to be the same three in every thread.

 

[legaleagle]

Originally posted by siueclipse
Dude, just go back under your rock. I nor anyone else in this forum needs your criticism.

You car? 400hp?

Oh wait.. thats right, all you do is drag cause you can't drive your car.. I was going to say lets go to an autocross.

Dude I guarenty you that if I dumped $10k+ into my car I would have well over 400hp. And Yes I will be happy with my 400hp car, you better hope I dont see your slow car on the street cause I got something for it. And as for my driving skills, just cuase you step in the ring with Ali doesnt mean you can box. Yes I quoted a ricer movie cause thats all you are, I figure you can relate better if I come down to your level. Just cause you ran the autoX 2 or 3 times doesnt make you a good driver. I drive everyday to work, and it isnt a straight line, so I am not sure what your point was of bringing that up. I have been to the autocross, and I will bet you my pay check that my car and me would do better then you and your car. Your such a dumb a$$ dude, you think that cause you have all this work done to your car that it is good for everything, it isnt. You will be lucky to get under 50 seconds on a road course. If you were into AutoX so much then you should have stuck with the NT, you will NEVER hit peak boost on an AutoX course with what you have, and that my friend is a FACT!!!

Oh and it doesnt really matter if you need my critizism or not, I gave it. Unlike your little followers your car does not impress me, nor anyone else with a good head on there shoulders. The money you have spent, compared to what you are putting down is pathetic. You should be criticizing yourself. I would be kickin my own arse if I put that much into a car to only get a disappointing number. But hey, you can live in your fantasy world where everything is cool cause you say it is.

 

[siueclipse]

jesus.. you know.. i think all the 4g63s should just stay out of this forum.

you guys are a waste of bandwidth in here. you guys don't know shit. only 50hp? hmnm... interesting.. its more like 75hp at least because of the drop in compression.

damn you guys are fools.. mike.. get your dick out of rich's ass for a minute and shut the #### up.

the numbers i have posted are very respectable for our cars, especially on 13psi of boost.

 

[DSMNightmare]

Dude last time you made 214 now you make 264 thats 50hp. Armond manages to pull more hp than you and so do most of the star boys.

mike.. get your dick out of rich's ass for a minute and shut the #### up

You so crazy james. I tried to be nice but I finally decided to step in here when you lay down the BS. Fact is you should be making more hp but your not and every time you work on that car you make a mockery of the 420a's

 

[legaleagle]

Originally posted by RSTsoon
I know spening 10k and gaining 50hp would bust my balls but there is no reason to rag on the guy, maybe giving some tuning tips or asking him how the cars running or something...you guys fight too much...and it always seems to be the same three in every thread.

I was not ragging I was questioning why that little of an increase was justified for the money spent, you cant justify that. I dont know anything so I am not able to give tips, and when I did give tips they were ignored. We fight too much because someone thinks that the more money you spend the more respect you should be given, sorry it doesnt work that way. You all are the ones making this into a 4g vs the world thread, I never brought that up. If you cant take what people have to say, then I suggest you either stop reading these forums or learn to deal with it!

 

[DSMNightmare]

Originally posted by RSTsoon
I know spening 10k and gaining 50hp would bust my balls but there is no reason to rag on the guy, maybe giving some tuning tips or asking him how the cars running or something...you guys fight too much...and it always seems to be the same three in every thread.

No, I don't want to fight, but I will raise the BS flag when I see it. It would not be so bad if he didn't quote track numbers of when his car was running with no hood, back seats, and what not.

I merely stated that there is no point to tuning a car on a dyno on pump gas at 13 psi if your going to go around telling everyone that you could do better IF you ran 25psi on race gas. Because IF you can then WHY don't you run 25psi with race gas? Seriously my car will make 500hp IF I do a lot of things.

I did not try to start shit, I merely raised the B.S. Flag.

 

[siueclipse]

Hey Mike.. guess what. Go back to your two friend lifestyle cause you aren't making any more here by being a constant asshole.

James

 

[DSMNightmare]

Originally posted by siueclipse
Hey Mike.. guess what. Go back to your two friend lifestyle cause you aren't making any more here by being a constant asshole.

James

I'm sorry James if the B.S. flag offends you. I just called it like I saw it. I'm sorry James please forgive me almighty DSM God I'm not so insecure that I'm going to let your shots hurt my feelings. Grow up man your taking cheap shots at people just because your mad about your car.

But if you really need to hear it:

Your the greatest
You have the most hp
264hp IS impressive.
10,000+ for a 14 second car IS impressive.

See now don't you feel like a big bad DSM'er?

 

[soulcontroller]

not to rain on anyones bashing parade, but turboing a car thats not meant to be, and more than doubling its stock horsepower is pretty impressive.

props on your car james, youve put a lot of work into it.

i personally enjoy the challenge of turboing an n/a. yes, we do have to put more work into our cars to see similar results that a 4g would have to do, but thats what makes us who we are.

its not about being elitist on this forum, its about people with similar interests sharing ideas and opinions, not all the negative bs.

enjoy!

 

[BakerGSX]

Originally posted by soulcontroller
not to rain on anyones bashing parade, but turboing a car thats not meant to be, and more than doubling its stock horsepower is pretty impressive.

props on your car james, youve put a lot of work into it.

i personally enjoy the challenge of turboing an n/a. yes, we do have to put more work into our cars to see similar results that a 4g would have to do, but thats what makes us who we are.

its not about being elitist on this forum, its about people with similar interests sharing ideas and opinions, not all the negative bs.

enjoy!

Wow I leave for a few days and this happens. I see your point that the bashing is not necessary, but then again I see DSMNightmares point about the BS. This should have never become a 4G63 vs 420a debate. And calling people names and throwing out insults is hardly a valid rebuttal. I think juan was around 340hp or something before he pulled his N/A apart to trade in for a GSX. BTW Mike do you still want that 20G off his car?

Not ripping on siueclipse at all but with the money and parts on that car it should be putting down more hp. Honestly now that you have the parts there is no reason you can't be near or above 300hp on pump gas. Now it is just a matter of tuning and getting things worked out.

Good luck siueclipse, hopefully you'll get it tuned to where it should be.