Turbo kit options

[LD25Delta9]

As some of you may remember, I posted some info on using a silvia turbo a while back.
I've scrapped that idea and am going to piece together a kit based off of the "less than $1000" thread. I've just got some basic info. This is all the stuff I plan on getting for my winter build. I will be using a BOV from my 1g.

Ebay:
FMIC:200.00 shipped
T3 Turbo:150.00 shipped
Oil Line Kit: 112.00 shipped
FPR: 38.00 shipped
38mm Wastegate: 93.00 shipped

CI:
Air/Fuel ratio gauge: 40.00+ship
Boost Guage: 40.00+ship
TurboTime+Harness: 108.00+ship
Walbro: 100.00+ship
Missing Link: 60.00+ship
o2 Sim: 50.00+ship(have high flow cat throwing downstream 02)
MBC: 15.00+ship


Treadstone:
Dump&Downtube: 200.00+ship

Total: 1281.00+shipping

My questions are: With as fresh into a turbo sytem as I am, and considering I'm only putting 8lbs of boost on her, should I get a wideband instead of just and air/fuel gauge? Can any one spot anything that I might be able to get for cheaper?
And, will the AFX ecu work in conjunction with a missing link?
Thanks much in advance for any info, pos. or neg.
I left out brand names for a reason.

[Locke]

For 8psi, you won't need an FPR, you'd want a 12:1 FMU.

The Walbro 255hp can be had for 90+shipping. I would keep shopping around for that.

Missing Link works OK, until the filter clogs. Replacement filters are in most peoples pocket, (cigarette filter) though. Most of us prefer to go the solid-state route, with the FCD. Price is comparable - see SymTech Labs. But as long as you have a ML or FCD, you'll be alright.

Modern turbo's don't generally require a TT for longevity, but it never hurts.

While I will admit, a narrowband display is better than no display, it is still nearly useless. A wideband will be preferred. Now that I've said that, you won't really need either when your running the basic 255hp+Stock Injectors+12:1 FMU combo, as it has been proven to work and has no adjustability.

Don't forget the turbo manifold.

The AFX ECU has been known to work with boost, but I wouldn't trust it on a factory bottom end and untuned setup.

[tegster1]

A lot of these things can be bought cheaper or name brand from this site or 2gnt.com. There are people all the time selling turbo parts. Although there arent quite as many options/choices as the 4g63 so you may need to look harder.

I am in almost the exact position you are just a little further along meaning I already have most of my parts but still waiting on a few more. I have seen a few fuel pumps for $50-70 on here. The FCD I got for $32 shipped. I have been shopping for a while now so I just waited till I found what I wanted for a good price.

This way you can save your money on a few of those parts and then either save money for your pocket or invest in something bigger or better or just something you want to have. As Locke said, a wideband isnt necessary since you cant really tune anything using an FMU, stock injectors, etc. but it is something that if you want to upgrade internals and run more boost later, you already have it and wouldnt need to replace unlike the previous.

I have my list with prices so far in a txt file if you want to see it but you are on the right track.

[rstare]

I suggest a fuel cut defender. Paul sells them for like $50. I have heard of alot more trouble with missing links, but only one occurance of trouble with a fcd.

[99RedGs]

Skip the narrowband sensor and the Turbo Timer. Saves $150 and they really aren't useful.

Make sure to check out that ebay turbo thoroughly before you run it and it should be fine.

You should be able to build your own o2 simulator for cheap ( $5-10) look around this site, but Im pretty sure no down stream o2 sensor has no effect on performance. You just get a code, but maybe you have to pass inspection or something there. I don't up here so I just leave the code.

[LD25Delta9]

I had done a little reading on the FCD compared to the missing link. The main reason I wanted to go with ML is it's ease of installation. I used to do car stero installations and Hate, again, Hate wiring anymore. Not that I can't, I just HATE it. And I'm a smoker too so filters for the ML aren't a problem. Would it be beneficial to go with some bigger injectors maybe some 450cc? And a wideband for beter tuning capability? I think with a wideband and bigger injectors and the AFX I might have better tuning capability than the usual 255lph+Stock Injectors+12:1 FMU combo. I've already got a wideband o2 sensor from a friend's old setup. Appreciate the help guys! Anything to save a buck for my 2yr old's tuition. And I've already got a cast manifold on the way for 75 shipped through a member here. And no emmisions here in good ol' Indiana. Indianappolis would get pissed!

[totaleclipse_05]

Originally Posted by LD25Delta9

I think with a wideband and bigger injectors and the AFX I might have better tuning capability than the usual 255lph+Stock Injectors+12:1 FMU combo.

Hmm, really? That is something new to me.

[rstare]

If you go with bigger injectors you need a way to control them.
Im using a sfmu, I like it for now. Its simple, quick and realitivly cheap compared to stuff like Megasquirt.
Once you go with bigger injectors you should definatley get that wideband though.

[LD25Delta9]

Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05

Hmm, really? That is something new to me.

I was basically saying adding that along with the usual setup would give me better options.

[cs82685]

Originally Posted by rstare

If you go with bigger injectors you need a way to control them.
Im using a sfmu, I like it for now. Its simple, quick and realitivly cheap compared to stuff like Megasquirt.
Once you go with bigger injectors you should definatley get that wideband though.

An SFMU really isn't much cheaper than MS, megasquirt just has a much greater learning curve.

Originally Posted by LD25Delta9

I was basically saying adding that along with the usual setup would give me better options.

you'd get more options from an sfmu than an afx ecu

[LD25Delta9]

Good to know! Thanks for the money and headache saving tips guys!