portfueler vs. ms

bomexe · 02-25-2007, 06:25 PM

i'm just curious, i know this is a common topic, but honestly what system do you think will be better... i want around 500+hp but the car really won't be raced it's more of a show car but it will make a pass or two...any info would be appreciated.
thanks
scott

Shadow98 · 02-25-2007, 10:44 PM

It seems the portfueler system has more support, but thats just my opinion.

BigRand · 02-25-2007, 11:10 PM

Actually I'd say its the other way round, because the MS is a DYI community based program and software......

But Hahn has its support as well.

http://www.megasquirt.info/

Shadow98 · 03-03-2007, 07:11 PM

Well, Rand so should know better as i'm not turbo yet.

BigRand · 03-03-2007, 09:18 PM

Like I see where your coming from in that hahn is known for their customer support when it comes to the stage kits and whatever else they put out....but imagine having a whole bunch of people (kinda like this website) when you figure something out sharing it with a whole community, and that community making it availible to the world...

Kirby · 03-05-2007, 01:49 PM

It's not just that though, it is how comfortable do you feel with the power they give you. For 500+hp you will have to adjust spark and fuel and that leaves you only with MS or portfuler / ign box combo. The other side to that is are you ready to control a whole car or are you just ready to tune the fuel...

xceler8 · 04-22-2007, 01:35 AM

You don't have to control the whole car with ms. You can control as much or as little as you want. I'm running just fuel right now. I will be doing spark soon, and maybe nitrous control. I would highly recommend the ms, but it will take you some time and like the others said the support group is very good and tehre's a lot of resources as long as you know how to search and read.

DSM-ZERO · 04-23-2007, 12:42 PM

Go Full Standalone!!!!!!!
I got my electromotive tec3r for $2000 and the best thing is it alredy comes with everything you need for ignition as well....

VelocitàPaola · 04-23-2007, 12:43 PM

Yes, but MS is $500 or less, and it's a full standalone as well.

xceler8 · 04-23-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VelocitàPaola

Yes, but MS is $500 or less, and it's a full standalone as well.

Word up-

How about less.
I got mine for maybe 300 shipped off of 2gnt from someone that never used it. Came with all sensors and wire harness. I dropped another 200 on a wideband. Bam!

I was out tuning a bit yesterday and realized how smooth and better than stock the car runs now since I've been first turbo in 2000. Money well spent-

Slippi84 · 02-23-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8

Word up-

How about less.
I got mine for maybe 300 shipped off of 2gnt from someone that never used it. Came with all sensors and wire harness. I dropped another 200 on a wideband. Bam!

I was out tuning a bit yesterday and realized how smooth and better than stock the car runs now since I've been first turbo in 2000. Money well spent-

That is the only wwy I would ever go MSnS is if I got one with all the plugs and sensors already wired in and I just had to plug in and then get it tuned. A PnP MSnS would make it the dsmlink of 420a tuners but because of the complicated wiring needed and other non userfriendly traits I think portfueler is a better choice for the average tuner who isn't as hands on savy as the next guy. Besides you take care of fuel and tuning in one shot. MSnS will still require the purchase of bigger injectors and something to controll fuel pressure if you need more fuel than the stock system can supply which is easy with a good turbo setup.

mike1999 · 02-23-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippi84

That is the only wwy I would ever go MSnS is if I got one with all the plugs and sensors already wired in and I just had to plug in and then get it tuned. A PnP MSnS would make it the dsmlink of 420a tuners but because of the complicated wiring needed and other non userfriendly traits I think portfueler is a better choice for the average tuner who isn't as hands on savy as the next guy. Besides you take care of fuel and tuning in one shot. MSnS will still require the purchase of bigger injectors and something to controll fuel pressure if you need more fuel than the stock system can supply which is easy with a good turbo setup.

Symtech labs are coming out with a pnp msns for 420a applications and supposedly theyre working to have it out within the next two months. So the dsmlink of 420a isnt so far away as you may have thought!

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