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| 420A Drivetrain Tech: Transmission, clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, gears, differentials, transfer case, shifter, etc - specific to 2G N/T DSMs. |
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06-23-2008, 08:00 AM
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From: Lindenwold, New Jersey
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Bulletproof Axles!!!!!!
Ok after talking with both companies(driveshaft shop and Raxels) I am convinced we're getting the shaft and if we can get enough people to hop on board we can get Raxles to invest in making us a set of axles made for our car. The turbo guys get a set of bulletproof for get this...$400 fir the set  . Driveshaft shop wants 1200 for a stage 3 setup which is rated to 525hp with no warranty as far as breaking while the $400 gets you a set of axles that has a lifetime no ?'s asked warranty for life!!!. I would be willing to send them a set of axles so he could figure out how to make us a set liek that but I need people to get in on it to make it worth his time to even get into this. I'm posting this on 2gnt.com too and i'm gonna send him a list of how many people would be willing to buy a set similar to the turbo set. Keep in mind i'm not saying that they will def be $400 but the fact that they have a warranty on their axles so that you can go to the track or out romping and not have to worry what if I break an axle is worth every penny. NO BS!!!> Don't put your name down here if you don't reall think you will dime out for a set because I don't want to waste this guys time but I know guys like ZERO Crab and awdynamite woudn't mind but we need more then just the big dogs to get him to make these.
Sure the stock axles have held up so far but for a price like that or close it would be worth the security. EVeryone from the all out NA guy cough cough mark to the average NT-T guy making 250whp to Zero could justify spending that kinda money for peace of mind with a lifetiem warranty. So liek I said anyone REALLY interested say so and i'll get a hold of the guy at raxles and see what he can do.
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06-24-2008, 07:55 AM
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From: Lindenwold, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by EsiGoneT-Esi
Im down as long as its in like 4-6 months lol
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Yeah driggs made a comment in the other thread that you don't replace it untill it breaks but I disagree. People are going bigger faster and lowering 60ft times. The stock axles are ok but if people keep up at this rate they won't cut it for long why not invest now while it's reasonable instead of waiting and then having to spend much more later on down the line.
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06-24-2008, 03:08 PM
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From: Newmarket, ON, Canada
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I don't think they are but are the NT axles the same as the turbo fwd's axles (think the turbo fwd's have a larger outer hub/spline section & different spline count)? I thought about upgrading but so far looking around the $1200 mark for what I need.
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06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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I don't think they are but are the NT axles the same as the turbo fwd's axles (think the turbo fwd's have a larger outer hub/spline section & different spline count)? I thought about upgrading but so far looking around the $1200 mark for what I need.
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WHich is exactly why i started this
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06-24-2008, 06:29 PM
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From: Hammond, Louisiana
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I am down for a set. I am shocked at how long my drive shafts have lasted. I do not know when they will break and i would like to not have to spend 1500 on a DSS stage 5 set.
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06-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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From: Terre Haute, Indiana
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I would be down, but i lifted my head the other day. I don't know if, I'am going to fix it....
If i change my mind. I will let you know.
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06-24-2008, 06:49 PM
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N/T DSM Wiseman

From: Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted by daren_p
I don't think they are but are the NT axles the same as the turbo fwd's axles
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Nope
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06-24-2008, 09:43 PM
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From: Newmarket, ON, Canada
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Originally Posted by Slippi84
WHich is exactly why i started this
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Incase you mean you started this because they don't make NT axles while they make turbo axles, that isn't the case. Last time I checked (couple months ago) they don't make "race" axles for fwd turbo's either, just awd models, which obviously don't have the same axles as a fwd turbo. This is why I wanted to verify fitment.
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06-24-2008, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by daren_p
Incase you mean you started this because they don't make NT axles while they make turbo axles, that isn't the case. Last time I checked (couple months ago) they don't make "race" axles for fwd turbo's either, just awd models, which obviously don't have the same axles as a fwd turbo. This is why I wanted to verify fitment.
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No I meant because a set that would fit yoru car cost 1200 not because they dn't make them for fwd's...but that too
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06-24-2008, 11:14 PM
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I am down for a set. I am shocked at how long my drive shafts have lasted. I do not know when they will break and i would like to not have to spend 1500 on a DSS stage 5 set.
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Yeah thats the alternative. I bet all it will take is for crab or awd to break an axle and this thread will be 5 pages long which is sad because it shouldn't take something real bad to happen to justify investing in making your car a morereliable car.
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06-25-2008, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slippi84
Yeah driggs made a comment in the other thread that you don't replace it untill it breaks but I disagree. People are going bigger faster and lowering 60ft times. The stock axles are ok but if people keep up at this rate they won't cut it for long why not invest now while it's reasonable instead of waiting and then having to spend much more later on down the line.
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 nah its because my wallet is empty!
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06-26-2008, 05:24 AM
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 nah its because my wallet is empty!
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Trust me if any of us had big wallets we wouldn't have dsm's lol
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06-27-2008, 07:07 PM
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Slippie- Have you actually talked to Raxles? I called them today and spoke to Marty. He said that in order for us(Fwd) to have stronger axles we need to have a stronger outer joint. The only way possible, he said, is by upgrading hubs. He went on further saying that since DSS has already done this, that it is not something that he would do.
I was like, that sucks. Looks like us fwd guys are stuck taking it up the butt without any lube.
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06-27-2008, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crab1092
Slippie- Have you actually talked to Raxles? I called them today and spoke to Marty. He said that in order for us(Fwd) to have stronger axles we need to have a stronger outer joint. The only way possible, he said, is by upgrading hubs. He went on further saying that since DSS has already done this, that it is not something that he would do.
I was like, that sucks. Looks like us fwd guys are stuck taking it up the butt without any lube.
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Yeah I talked with him and he told me the same thing about the outer joints but his thing was no one had come to him about iyet so he didn't seem into it he didn't tell me he wouldn't do it because DSS had already done it. IN fact he we talked briefly about how he thought it was kinda messed up how other companies kinda tell kids their beat when they by these expensive axles and the break. If he's saying now he wouldn't do it might be stuck with 1200 bill but from the turn out to e honest I don't think there's enough people trying to push the limit yet to get him to make them anyway  oh well looks like after I drop 1200 fo my chromoy cage I gotta drop another 1200 for axles.
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06-27-2008, 10:31 PM
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From: Castle Rock, Colorado
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for around 400$ i would be interested in knowing what hub will be used
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06-27-2008, 10:39 PM
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From whatcrab said and talking to DSS the reason it's so much is cause of the hub and even if raxel makes a setup it wouldn't be much cheaper because of that. Kind of a bumer because now you guys who I thought about along with myself are coming out and seem intereted. I"m still gonna try and talk to both companies see if there is another option. BUlletproof lifetime axles cost turbo awd guys 400 a set so I don't see how even with hubs it wouldn't be possible to make something cheaper than 1200.
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07-02-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Slippi84
 Findanza already makes axles for our cars for $400 for a set. They have auctions on ebay am I the only person that didn't know this or is there a catch like it doesn't fit or known to be half ass??
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from what I heard they are wack. I also heard their warranty sucks as well.
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07-02-2008, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EsiGoneT-Esi
from what I heard they are wack. I also heard their warranty sucks as well.
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Yeah never heard good things about the 4g63 findanza axles either
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01-21-2009, 10:57 PM
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From: Bowling Green, Kentucky
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i agree with most of you... but i have some hookups with axles though... i bought all of mine from work, and when i twist it in half or in the rear diff, i exchange it for another one. have to love working at advance auto parts
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01-21-2009, 11:14 PM
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From: McKinney, Texas
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I talked to them last week about getting a set of axles for my 98 GST and they said that they do not carry upgrades for it. Im looking to get a set but I dont want to spend $1600 for them.
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01-21-2009, 11:48 PM
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From: Humble, Texas
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Fellas the thread is geared (no pun intended) toward 420a owners.
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01-24-2009, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EsiGoneT-Esi
Im down as long as its in like 4-6 months lol
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Make that 2
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01-24-2009, 05:38 AM
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Your 4g63, I made this thread when I was 420a. They same guy that I was trying to get to make the race axles already makes them for both 2g and 1g awd guys for $400. I'm getting a set for my 1g awd talon I'm building now
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01-24-2009, 08:32 AM
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Raxles - Raxles Home
Contact them about their 1000hp HD Raxles. They're $440 for both front axles with a lifetime warranty.
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Yup those are the ones I will be running
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04-11-2009, 02:41 PM
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I was lucky enough to get a set new of stage 3's from the DS shop off of someone who wrecked there car before they could be installed for $450 so im pretty happy about that
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02-25-2012, 12:10 AM
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I have dss stg 5s, off hahns car. They are splined diffenrt, and came with the applicable hubs etc. I paid 1400.. they are deff bigger then stock and beefier.
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