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Old 06-19-2008, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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bolt on turbo

I was curious if this is everything I need to have a small turbo. Working on building my other block but wanted to start off with something small.

eBay Motors: JDM'S 95-99 ECLIPSE 420A NT TO T3/T4 TURBO KIT 96 97 98 (item 140242631834 end time Jun-25-08 18:53:52 PDT)

Please let me know if there is anything else I need to add to this and if stock pistons would be fine with this turbo setup until my other block is finished. Thanks alot.
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I was curious if this is everything I need to have a small turbo. Working on building my other block but wanted to start off with something small.

eBay Motors: JDM'S 95-99 ECLIPSE 420A NT TO T3/T4 TURBO KIT 96 97 98 (item 140242631834 end time Jun-25-08 18:53:52 PDT)

Please let me know if there is anything else I need to add to this and if stock pistons would be fine with this turbo setup until my other block is finished. Thanks alot.
Fuel system!!(pump, fuel management...etc.) search this forum it has a lot of answers for you!

Stock system will be fine if your tune is right...

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ehh i have a hard time searching through forums and finding things. So I would need a fuel pump?
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Give the search a try - this does get answered a lot. It takes a few queries and some scanning through crap, but you'll find it.


I'll help you out anyways - The most frugal fuel system will be a Walbro 255lph + 12:1 FMU + Stock injectors. This will be ok to ~8psi of boost, assuming you are using an intercooler. Without an intercooler, don't go above ~5psi. You'll need an FCD or ML as well, to prevent fuel cut.


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yes the kit on ebay comes with an intercooler.
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JDM'S T3/T4 Turbocharger with 3" Filter!!
Turbine Turbocharger
Oil cooled only
6 blade propeler
Compressor Specs :
3" Compressor Inlet
3.000" or 76.2mm inducer
1.990"" or 50.55mm Major
Compressor .50 A.R.
Compressor 57 Trim
M24 / T4 Compressor Housing
Turbine Specs :
T3 Type Turbine
11 Blade Type
2.25" Exducer
Turbine .64 A.R.
Turbine 76 Trim
2.567 " or 65.2mm Major
2.207 " or 56.06mm Minor
Exhaust Outlet Flange with 5 bolt design
Can modified to use external or internal wastegate.
Suggested for 1.6L to 2.3L engine up to 150-400HP

JDM'S T3/T4 Turbo Oil Feed Line !!
Made Out of High Quality Aluminum
Improves Engine Oil Cooling for all Engine types
Length : 36"
1/8" Adapter NPT Male Fitting for the Block
Comes with all accessories needed.

JDM'S T3/T4 Turbo Oil Return Line !!
Made Out of High Quality Aluminum
Oil Return Line made for turbo
Helps circulate oil from the turbo to the oil pan
All components are included for fitment
Fits on all turbos
Only works on metal oil pans only!

JDM'S Manual Turbo Boost Controller !!
In order avoid replacing wastegate springs, which only give a fixed increase, which is not adjustable, a boost controller will be the most cost effective solution
Allows adjustable boost psi settings, light weight design to be mount under the hood. Hardware is included
Universal fitment and great for all Turbo applications
Easy to adjust from 1-30PSI
Professional Installation required

Type-S Style Blow Off Valve !!
Direct Bolt-On For All Turbo Application With Flange
Universal Fitting Kit
This Blow Off Valves Are Easily Adjustable To Prevent Both Premature Boost Leakage And Compressor Surge
Both Premature Boost Leakage And Compressor Surge.
It Can Hold Up To 1200HP Or 25 PSI Of Boost Pressure
Professional Install Suggested

JDM'S Cast Iron Conversion Turbo Manifold !!
Black Cast Iron Turbo Manifold
Higher Resistance to Heat
Allows Power Steering and Air Conditioning
Fits with T3 Type Turbos and 35mm/38mm Wastegates
Direct Bolt on Manifold
Professional Installation Highly Recommended.
Fitment: Mitsubishi Eclipse with 420A Engines

JDM'S 38mm Turbo Wastegate with Flex Pipe
All Stainless Steel hardware
Mating weld flanges are 304L.
17-7 PH Stainless Steel actuator spring gives consistent pressure at high temperature, resist "relaxing" at temperature to 900F (483C).
High temperature silicone reinforced actuator diaphragm.
High temp alloy is used for valve and 347SS valve housing will offer longer product life compared to competing designs.
External wastegates are commonly used for regulating boost levels more precisely than internal wastegates in high power applications, where high boost levels can be achieved.
Comes with a spring around 7psi

JDM'S 2" Turbo Boost Gauge & Air/Fuel Gauge
52mm diameter = 2inch universal fitments
Luxury Chrome trims framing
Dark Tinted face for stealth JDM looks.
LED lightings allow great visibility during day and night
12v gauge, light weight abs plastic finish
Features White numbering and Red needles

JDM'S Customizable Turbo Piping Kit
Intercooler Piping are CNC Machine Mandrel Bent (Jp Design)
Made From High Quality 6061 Aluminum Material
Extra Thick Piping and Increased Air Flow
Light weight design. Made from Aluminum.(Increase 10-20 HP).
PSi Drop under 0.2. Other Intercooler usually drop 10Psi Some are More
Comes with various Turbo Pipes, T-Bolt clamps, Couplers
Has blow off valve flange prewelded
Requires cutting and modifying to fit.

JDM'S 28"x7"x2.5" Turbo Intercooler
Tube & Fin Design
Light weight designed. Made of Aluminum.(Increase 10-20 HP).
All TIG Welded 6061 Aluminum
PSi Drop under 0.2. Other Intercooler usually drop 10Psi Some are More
Max PSi is 30 Up to 400HP
Core Size: 21"x7"x2.5"


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Give the search a try - this does get answered a lot. It takes a few queries and some scanning through crap, but you'll find it.


I'll help you out anyways - The most frugal fuel system will be a Walbro 255lph + 12:1 FMU + Stock injectors. This will be ok to ~8psi of boost, assuming you are using an intercooler. Without an intercooler, don't go above ~5psi. You'll need an FCD or ML as well, to prevent fuel cut.

what is 12:1 FMU?
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what is 12:1 FMU?
"Fuel management Unit"

http://www.dsm-ezine.com/sleeper5_stage_1.html


The simplest way to add the additional fuel required is with a FMU . A FMU is
basically a second FPR(fuel pressure regulator) that is installed between the
stock FPR and the return fuel line heading back to the tank. As boost pressure
increases, the fuel pressure will increase above the set limit of the factory FPR
at an increment determined by the size of the FMU you are using. FMU's
generally are available in sizes ranging from 12:1, 10:1, 8:1, 7:1, 4:1, and 3:1.
The most commonly suggested size FMU to use on our car when using the
stock FPR and fuel injectors would be the 12:1 ratio unit (this isn't necessarily
the best choice, read on). What this means is that for every 1 lb. of boost
pressure, the fuel pressure will rise by 12psi above the static fuel pressure set
by the stock regulator.
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so that kit + a walbro fuel pump and FMU i can install this turbo? About how much knowledge on cars do i need to install this? And where can i get a cheap FMU but good quality?
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eBay Motors: Fuel Management Unit FMU 12:1 Blue JDM Turbo Regulator (item 270246492770 end time Jun-21-08 01:56:00 PDT)

found that for FMU

eBay Motors: WALBRO 255LPH FUEL PUMP MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE 95-98 ALL (item 250261015006 end time Jun-25-08 18:01:54 PDT)

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I wouldn't recommend installing a turbo kit without all the proper tools and knowledge. Especially, if it's going on your daily driver. If you've changed a clutch before, you probably wouldn't have too much problems with it. Search here for more info.

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i searched and cannot find anything on how to put in the turbo.
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i searched and cannot find anything on how to put in the turbo.
here is one on piecing the system together and install:

How to build a 420a stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000

and here is another one showing the install with instructions:

Complete TurboSystem Components & Installation Pics
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Don't waste your money buying that crappy "kit" off of egay. I wouldn't trust putting 80% of that stuff on if I was planning on turboing my car. All those parts are cheap imitations and will fail a lot earlier. Do some research for once and figure out what is all needed to turbo your car and buy better components and spend less in the long run. Spoon-feeding is not the way info is given on forums, you need to do some research on your own to find information.


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