anyone use a catch can?

[siueclipse]

just curious if anyone actually uses this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873747978

 

[DSM-ZERO]

Know a-lot of honda people that use it but have only seen it once on a DSM but it looks like a good price.

 

[GSX90]

Originally posted by siueclipse
just curious if anyone actually uses this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873747978

I have that same catch can. I like its function of keeping oil out of the air intake track...

 

[siueclipse]

Originally posted by GSX90


I have that same catch can. I like it's function of keeping oil out of the air intake track...

but is it actually worth buying?

 

[GSX90]

Originally posted by siueclipse


but is it actually worth buying?

Probably not. You can make a homemade catch can for a lot cheaper. I got mine mainly because of the looks...

 

[siueclipse]

ok thanx

 

[Ken]

Run what I have. Get one of those clear inline fuel filter like for lawnmowers. For three dollars It does the same thing by filtering the oil out of the blowby. You just have to replace it from time to time.

 

[ECLIPSE95]

I've seen it done on the turbo engines
but is it nessary on the 420a motors?

http://www.tgilmore.com/talon/catchcan.html

Could I do this to my 420a but where would I put that fuel filter?

between the valve cover and intake or between the valve cover and Intake manafold?

thankz ~Dustin(Eclipse95)

 

[90DSMTurboFWD]

the only reason to have an oil-catch can is to keep oil from building up in the intercoolers. Which Non-turbo's dont have. So the only reason to do this would be for looks, and in my opinion it looks kinda retarded and is a waste of about 80 bucks.

 

[TRUSTEDONE2003]

i know this is probably a dumb question but how do you make the "homemade" one like mentioned above. i've never seen one before and if its works, why not? somebody fill me in.....trust

 

[Defiant]

http://www.tgilmore.com/talon/catchcan.html

 

[dcshoeco1041]

im turboing my car so its a good idea to have one?? is it hard to install???

 

[dcshoeco1041]

how do you run the fuel filter? eliminate the pcv? or after the pcv before the valve cover tube.??

 

[DougR]

Yess a Properly setup catch can is benificial on Any engine.That recirculates crankcase gasses back into the intake.

Simple reason. It all but stops excess carbon build up on valve heads and piston tops.
This is always good. Regaurdless if you drive like a granny or race daily.

I install CC's on every vehical I own and All of my friends that are willing to actually buy the parts.

Most ppl will simply remove the PCV system in attempts to stop excess gasses and carbon build up. Little do they know that also reduces gass millage and efficiency... Some ppl even experience a (Very) Slight power loss at part throttle..

If I You must pay 4$ per gallon.. Dont you want to burn every last drop of it? or do you like throwing money out the window?
Unburt gass vapors are miuxed with oil vapors.. The oil is Heavy, gas is light... The CC trys to contain the oil while allowing the somewhat cleaned gas vapors to reenter and be reburnt...

This is a bonus...

 

[dcshoeco1041]

so how would i set up a catch can and keep the pcv???

 

[DougR]

Highly reccomend you read through This thread. This will give you a very good idea on how the system works and why its used.

Here is one of the best picture examples that has been posted here at Tuners.

Just pay attention to the intake manifold can. and realize you will be useing your PCV as the port and not the custom AN fitting that guy welded to the top of his valve cover..

And if you want to build one yourself. This is how you build a proper Street driven CC. That link is exactly how I build mine( just beshure to seprate the mesh screens aprox 1/2" apart or they become VERY restrictive). Along with the Us plastics Check valve, Linked in the 1st thread, page 2. (buy a few of them, I bought 15. knowing ppl will buy them and I will break them during maintenace and simply due to excess heat making them brittle... Building this setup costs aprox 20-40$ depending how fancy and large of a can you build.

Understand there are numerous types of CC's. some for daily cars, and some for track only cars...
That last link is best suited for DD's as it will filter out ALOT! more of the heavy gasses then the typicle single angled baffle that most Name brand CC's use..
Just Beshure to install a drain! And for the first couple months check it often. once you get used to how fast it fills, this will determine how often you actually need to drain it..
O yea. Beshure to rough up the sealing surfaces with 400grit paper and use a Permanent type of glue to hold iit together.. Once dried, say after a day.. Pressure check it with a air compressor at less than 1 PSI!!!! in a water filled bucket! Carefull To mutch PSI and IT WILL EXPLODE! Seen it done. Lucky the CC was in the bucket of water at the time. And none of the PVC schrapnel killed anyone.

Example. my S-10 which as almost zero blowby. needs to be drained every 4-5 months.
My Mud truck that has ALOT of blow by due to sucking in sandy water frequently before I decided to snorkel it... Needs to be drained almost weekly depending how often I go out.
My DSM is still work in progress so I cant tell ya how mutch it will need to be drained.

 

[DougR]

Look to this Thread for Links and Info.

Altho a Search would Yield the same results.

 

[dcshoeco1041]

what bout for the 420a? i bought an obx catch can to match my color scheme.

 

[DougR]

Re read post #14

They work on Engine with a PCV system.....

 

[Bad Panda]

i personally do NOT use one but they are a good idea as stated above

 

[dcshoeco1041]

do you install it after the pcv and before it reaches the nub on the valve cover?