The Official "What's this DSM worth?" Thread

[Prime85]

Yea it's not worth the head ache you can fine a stock one for cheap. I got lucky my get was given to me by my girlfriends pops and all I did was put a 28,000 mile engine in it. Cost me about 3,000. Just fine a cheap one and fix it up yourself you will be more satisfied!

 

[Prime85]

Find not fine* and I ment to say GST not get. Typing on an iPhone sucks

 

[joerivers6]

1998 Eagle Talon TSI AWD
5sp. Manual
185K on body / Aprox. 10k on 6-bolt rebuild
Peprika Pearl Red (darker of the two reds)
Tan and Black interior
Leather seats
Cruise Control
Power windows and Locks
Remote entry
Full size spare
Tinted windows
New battery

- 6 Bolt motor w/ 10K miles on stock rebuild
- Balanced and Blueprinted / No balance shafts
- TRE stage 2 trans w/ 10k
- ACT 2600 clutch
- ss clutch line
- Short shifter w/ underhood bushings
- Greddy Turbo Timer
- Buschur 20G Turbo
- SS oil lines
- Tial 40mm external w/g
- EVO 3 exhaust manifold
- SS exhaust manifold cover
- Victory performance 2.5" O2 housing
- 3" downpipe/testpipe (Thermal wraped)
- 3" Apex'i catback
- SSAC FMIC short route w/ polished piping
- Dual slimline fans
- Forge BOV
- FIC 750cc injectors
- SX Fuel pressure regulator
- OBX oil catch can
- Walbro 255lph fuel pump
- Single nozzle water injection w/ switch & LED
- DSMlink v. 2
- Autometer boost, egt & A/F guages
- Tokico illumina adjustable struts/shocks with springs 2.5" drop
- Pioneer head unit
- Black head light housings
- No A/C
- 18" Enkei Tuners
- Two brand new front tires / Rears have at least 75% tread
- Currently runs fine(its only been outta the garage for 2 weeks now this yr.), but could use a tune..

Hes askin 7300...

 

[lacroixdp]

That seems to be a reasonable price to me, considering the money he's got in it.

 

[MichaelSuch]

I found a '95 Talon ESi for sale on CL, talked to the owner and it is literally a mile from my house. It of course has the 420a motor (which I know nothing about, I've only owned 4g63's, and never owned a 2g), which is being pulled to put in his wifes Avenger. So basically it's just a shell with the trans, only thing I would need is another 420a to put in it. The interior was pretty nice, it's only missing the CD Player and headliner. The wheels are some old steel wheels, and theres only 1 spot of rust on the inside of a rear wheel well. There are a about 3 baseball sized dings, there not very deep, and they haven't broke any of the paint off yet. The only other issue with the exterior is that the roof is messed up. He is asking $300 for it, without the motor. Would this car be worth it? I don't know if I'd keep it or just fix it and sell it. Oh, the odo read 130,000 miles

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I could probably haggle him down to around $200, and see what happened to his wife's motor which is still in her car. He said it was locked up and when he pulled it off the trailer oil was everywhere...

 

[DSMxJB]

I am going to look at a 97 Eclipse GS-X today. The guy said he will take $5800. It has 130k miles. It is in really good shape (according to him and the pictures look good). It has a few mods which are: Apexi N1 Exhaust, Greddy BOV, FMIC (don't know what kind it's big though), HKS Turbo Timer, Thats all the aftermarket I can remmeber at the moment. I'm at school and the site it's on is blocked. It also has new tires, new clutch, and a new turbo. Please let me know what you think.

 

[xezerax]

Ask if the timing belt has been replaced

 

[Talon2139]

If the body is in decent condition, and the parts are truly new, then i would say go for it.

 

[sik4g63]

I would definately check to see if all the reg. maintenence has been done on it and if he has the reciepts to prove it. Other than that if it seems like a good running car I would go for it.

 

[mitch86]

What would you guys pay for this?

1992 Plymouth Laser RS AWD
109,XXX miles 5spd


THE GOOD:
Fuel system
Dual Walbro 255lph in tank fuel pumps (8ga wiring w/ relay)
Fuel lab AN 06 fuel filter
AN 06 fuel line - filter to rail/rail to regulator
FIC 1150cc fuel injectors
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator w/ gauge
DSMLink v2 engine control unit w/ 633MHZ Sony VAIO Laptop
Innovative LC-1 wideband O2 sensor w/ gauge
GM 3 Bar map sensor
E-85 fuel (easily switched to unleaded/leaded)
Turbo Setup
Forced Performance Green turbocharger (internally waste-gated) ~6k miles on the turbo
1995 ported exhaust manifold
Extreme XBC boost controller
ARP turbocharger to manifold bolts
FP stainless steel turbocharger oil feed line
Motor
2.0 Liter with 8.5:1 compression ratio (6 bolt) ~3k miles on the new motor
Eagle rods, Ross pistons
ACL tri-metal bearings on a polished OEM crankshaft
Forced Performance 2 camshafts
1g head w/ light porting and 3 angle valve job
1mm OS SS swirl polished valves on Bronze manganese valve guides
Crower valve springs (shimmed 0.060in) and 3g lifters
OEM headgasket and ARP headstuds
OEM front case (oil pump)
OEM timing belt pulleys, timing belt tensioner, and timing belt
OEM balance shaft elimination kit
Topline water pump
Prototype intake manifold (designed for 5000-8000rpm)
Prothane motor mounts (3 full w/ front insert)
Moroso coolant overflow
FIAV bypass plate
Drivetrain
ACT street-lite flywheel
ACT 2600 w/ street disc
Built Transmission (billet shift forks, heavy duty 3rd and 4th gear, 4 spider center diff, double synchro 2nd gear)
4 bolt rear-end
Intake and Exhaust Setup
2.5” to 3” o2 housing w/ wastegate reroute
3” downpipe back exhaust w/ Thermal R&D muffler
3” cold air intake with 4” K&N air filter
1995 Mass Airflow Sensor
2” to 2.5” lower intercooler pipe
2.5” upper intercooler pipe
Garret 24”x12”x3.5” front mounted Intercooler
OEM bov (crushed)

Chassis
KYB Gr2 shocks and struts
Eibach Pro-kit springs
17 inch ADR wheels with 225/45/17 ZR tires
New tie rod ends
Miscellaneous
Pedal Assembly welded w/ bronze bushings
Center vent gauge pod w/ Autometer boost gauge and Innovate wideband gauge
Pioneer head unit w/ Kenwood dual-mag 5 ¼” and Pioneer 4 way 6x9” speakers
New brake rotors, pads, re-manned calipers, and new brake master cylinder (<5k miles ago)
New radiator, thermostat, heater hoses, OEM radiator hoses, OEM water neck
New battery, OEM accessory belts, OEM plug wires
Power windows, sunroof, spoiler, no A/C (removed)

THE BAD:
The lock cylinders on the car don’t work (jammed, seized?)
The sunroof seal seeps water during heavy rains/snows
The driver power window track needs cleaned and lubricated on the side nearest to the front of the car
The car takes 2-4 times cranking over ~1sec with the E85 to start when cold (it cranks fine, tuning issue?)
The acceleration throttle enrichment is too little during warmup (only first 1-3 minutes, tuning issue?)
The body is mediocre with some dents/dings and very little rust (looks like a 10-15 yr old car)

 

[DSMxJB]

Alright, thanks for the opinions people. Please post more! I'm going to go look at it this weekend, if it's as nice as the guy says and runs good I'm probably going to buy it.

 

[sik4g63]

What site did you find this car on? Also are you able to post up pics of it now?

 

[rush2252]

being a 2g with 130k its a likely candidate for "crankwalk" I would DOUBLE check maintenance records. $5800 is rather steep for a 2g GSX as well. Not to say that it could be a deal it would just have to be in top notch shape. Im probably going to have alot of people disagree with me but ive seen them here in Oklahoma going for 4k all day long. I paid $500 for mine it needs paint and it needed about 1200 to get it going but considering I can paint it myself and do all the work that just leaves the cost of parts. Its going to end up being a good investment.

Thats the key can you buy this car drive it w out major problems and still get rid of it in 4 years and not lose your tush

 

[wwarlock]

I would like to see the website if it says anything about the car and see the pics.

But I agree if it is in good condition go for it.

One other thought how old is the person who drove it? No offense to our younger drivers on here but unless the person looks like they would have taken care of it. and Was not a young kid, that was not an enthusiast then he may have run it into the ground and you would never know.

 

[swarm]

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Bolt-on Modifications

Large FMIC
3" Intercooler Piping
DNP Tubular Exhaust Manifold (being swapped with turbo)
Garrett 60-1 Turbo (being swapped for something larger. still undecided what)
Megan Racing 3in Downpipe
Punishment Racing o2 housing w/ external dump
3in Catback
Tial BOV
Hallman MBC
Aeromotive AFPR
FIC 1000 Injectors
Magnus Fuel Rail
Sheet Metal Intake Manifold
75mm BBK Throttle Body
Prothane Motor Mounts

Engine Management

DSMlink V2
MAF-T
GM 3" MAF
AEM UEGO Wideband
Boost Gauge
EGT Gauge

Engine Internals

6-Bolt Swap
Ported & Polished Head
1mm O/S Valves
Brian Crower Valve Springs
Brian Crower Titanium retainers
Crower 280 cams
ARP Head Studs
Cometic Head Gasket
Eagle Rods
Wiseco 9.0:1 Pistons
Fluidamper Pulley

Drivetrain Modifications

Shepherd Stage 4 Race Transmission
Shepherd Transfer Case
Quarter Master Twin Disk clutch.
Steel Braided Clutch line

Suspension Modifications

KYB AGX
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
Konig Trouble 18in Wheels
Camber Kit

 

[gorf]

One other thought how old is the person who drove it? No offense to our younger drivers on here but unless the person looks like they would have taken care of it. and Was not a young kid, that was not an enthusiast then he may have run it into the ground and you would never know.

AGREE! I sold my first dsm because I couldn't stand the rust on it, it was not rusted through but the surface rust bugged me.
My second dsm is a rust free Florida car, but it was "rode hard and put away wet". I have been working on it for two years and still can not find a number of rattles and squeaks....

 

[tjbiker031]

I think he wants too much for a 2g GSX with 160k @ $5800. 160k miles is kind of high in my opinion, and i don't think crank walk is the issue. I think it more prone to engine failure of some type because its getting up there in mileage. Plus theirs no telling how the previous owner drove it and took care of it. Personally i wouldn't give him anything more than $4800.


p.s. Plus he has only basic mods, so those do not make the value of the car go up.

 

[mnr88talon]

wow i wish i could find a 2g gsx/tsx for 5800 here in PA.. they are all starting to go for 8/9k now that its getting close to summer

i would post some pics of the car, and if you can get some pics of the engine bay that would be nice

test drive it (obviously)

check all struts for rust!!

 

[cookmeup272]

So my friend was driving around and spotted this absolutely gorgeous 92 Eclipse GS Turbo. I talked with the guy for about 2 hours and he is certainly no ricer idiot. I will spare you the essay and provide you with his craigslist ad...

91 Eclipse TRUBO ALL NEW!!

The guy would give me EVERYTHING HE OWNS for 4k. The body/paint is in better condition than mine. Seriously, the pictures do not do this car justice. Also, hew removed the bumper supports, pwr steering, and AC. The car is about 2500 pounds. I have a guy interested in my car and we agreed on 5700, I bought my car for 5700 and the guy also threw in a greddy FMIC kit. How good of a deal do you guys think this is? If it were you in my shoes, what would you do?

 

[brian9397gsx]

i would def jump on that especially if you have someone interested in yours

 

[Dark Lytz]

dude get that car.....sell yours and get that car.as long as it runs like it should its well worth it.nuf said

 

[cookmeup272]

Seriously, I almost jizzed in my pants when i saw this car. The biggest thing holding me back was reliability. I dont wanna buy the car and have it break down on me the next week ya know?

 

[bagged420a]

If your wanting a change you should jump on it. Seems like a good deal

 

[Dark Lytz]

utica is not that far of a drive for me....better jump on this one man

 

[cookmeup272]

Lol hands off dude! haha jp. Im hoping that this guy buys my car tomorrow or the next day.