Who has the nicest 420a engine bay?

[crimsonGST]

zero and esi's setups are very good. i like esi's because of the clean look it has. zero's HA wow there is not much not to like about that. i was just in favor of eclipse rs-t's. Just my opinion. To each their own...

 

[DSM-ZERO]

Thanks i appreciate that.. anyone who works hard at it can have a nice set up. it just takes time and dedication

 

[bullettdsm]

Knowing mark though it won't be pretty but it will be hella fast

, yup, you know me well. Bling for me? Ha ha, nope. But its gotta go

Here's a couple of crappy pics just to get the idea.

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These are off my video camera cause my regular camera pooped out. It was kinda thrown together for the SO, but the water pump pulley fell off on the dyno WTF 2 days before the SO (but got 345.7whp on that pull). Can't say I've seen that happen before. Wiped out the intake valves on the decel. Waiting for valves from SBR (who I no longer will reccomend. Too many times back to their old ways).

MB

Oh yeah, Mark Peachy exhaust mani (qucksilver99 on 2gnt)

 

[Project2G]

My friend Jerry has a very clean engine bay

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[rstare]

My friend Jerry has a very clean engine bay

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Very nice.

And mark, wow, never seen anything quite like that. Looks like its coming along nice, keep it up.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

MARK!!

what turbo you running?? and is that a PWR air/liquid intercooler

 

[bullettdsm]

MARK!!

what turbo you running?? and is that a PWR air/liquid intercooler

Ha ha ha, yes that's right Zero. I know you can appreciate it. Even in that crappy colorless pic you can tell. Its a 6x8 PWR in-line unit, And it works wonderfully. Ambients Saved space in the front for more air flow into the engine bay.

I'm in that group that finds IAT's to be highly important. Keep things cooler, have more power. Plus that unit has like near zero pressure drop (OK not that good, but you get my drift). My system consists of the intercooler, a holding tank (I'm using a Honda windshield wiper tank right now, . I didn't decide on a design yet, so I just threw that on there. turboglenn has already said he can make the box, as soon as I get him dimensions), a small FMIC (hidden in the front air damn duct on the passenger side. Not necessary but a little insurance), a bosch pump and a bunch of 3/4" lines. I haven't set it up for ice yet, but as you know, that would be even better.

The turbo is the Borg Warner sc366 with an .86 AR. Yeah she's a bit big (better pics);

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But I'm doing all I can to help spool up (Hence the Mark Peachy shortie manifold). The turbo itself has spool characteristcs of a BB turbo but with some really nice torque and power curves. The Honda guys take this turbo over 800whp (well above what I am shooting for). So we'll see how this all works out.

I got on the dyno with it couple days before the SO. I had big time dyno demons attack. Goofy crap like sensors go bad, wires falling off, boost gauge lines falling off. But the best was the last pull when we finally got her started on tuning. Did a couple of pulls on low boost 280whpish, 303whpish, 330whpish. You know starting to bring her up. The next pull, at about 5k something rolls out at me while I'm watching. Can't quite figure it out, but the car is still pulling. By the time I figured it out, my tuner Matt had done a full pull. It was the water pump pulley WTF! Talk about your dyno demons. The pulley fell off in the middle of the run and the timing belt held onto the shaft that was left behind to put down 345.7whp, . Needless to say, that was the last pull. She popped on the decel and I'm now waiting for SBR to get my freakin' valves to me (just the intakes popped).

So we got a little fun coming up.

MB

And rstare, yeah, I gotta do crap different. I'm funny like that, .

 

[chris712vt]

just curious mark, how much boost are you running to make that power?

 

[bullettdsm]

That was at 22psi but it is skewed. Because of the belt the timing went funny. Matt noticed it during the pull but the AFR's were fine and the EGT's were fine etc so he just pulled through it.

Also. I am running stock cams until I decide what cams I'm gonna want. Right now I'm leaning heavy to the Crower 2's NA.

MB

 

[Slippi84]

Mark this is just scary because I had the same plan of running those PWR inline water to air intercooler when I was building my 420a for boost for the same reasons you just said. The thread about fst91dsm I asked him about his setup because he ran one and he said it he ran the same size you have the 6x8 and he ran 10.01. If your going for a car that will ever see the street mark you don't need that fmic what you need is a heat exchanger. Pretty much a fmic type idea but your not cooling the air your cooling the water. Installation is a lot easier because they're usualy only an inch thick and have either water line input and out put nipples on either the same or opposite sides your choice. The bosch pump is def the way to go too it can pull and push so you can place it anywhere as opposed to that red and white one you see all the time that can only push water and has to be placed below the water source. I am still going to be using this style cooling method on tsi as 1fstdsm said they went .8 secs faster from switching to ice water water-air vs air to air . That's awesome that you got the car to run 22psi even though you had some minor setbacks sounds like your on the track to a pretty dam quick car.

On a side note I found this in the picture section just now. I hope the owner comes and tells us a little bit about it cause I'm def confused His profile says it's a gst but it's obviously a 420a and yet the manifold looks like a 4g63 ebay manifold and I don't see a wastegate??? None the less probably my favorite just because of the originality while still being something I could see a regular person building aka not dsm zero type car

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[rstare]

Wow, that is pretty nice. That looks just like a 4g63 manifold... hmmm. Maybe they took a 420a manifold, and took the flange the mounts the manifold to the head and switched it with a 4g63 manifold...? Idk, just throwing ideas out there. Cant really see the turbo, but there definatley no external wastegate, so its simply got a internal wastegate.
Very original, I like it.

 

[eclipse RS-T]

That looks pretty crazy... What kind coil pack Is he runnin?

 

[Slippi84]

That looks pretty crazy... What kind coil pack Is he runnin?

Got me I"m gonna PM him and tell him to respond here and we'll let him explain more but with the IAT sensor in the intake I bet he's standalone and that's a MSD coil looks like.

 

[rstare]

I didnt even notice the IAT on the intake at first.

 

[Diamondrev]

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Stock.. a few weeks after i bought her from the dealer...

 

[Locke]

That looks pretty crazy... What kind coil pack Is he runnin?

Looks like a Ford EDIS coil-pack.

 

[Slippi84]

Looks like a Ford EDIS coil-pack.

Your right I just glanced the first time and saw the red but that def isn't a 420a ignition coil you see on most of our cars.

 

[eclipse RS-T]

Looks like a Ford EDIS coil-pack.

I thought it look like one, Any thoughts on his Tubo manifold.
I pm the owner and he said the Manifold was on the car when he bought it.

 

[Slippi84]

Im waiting! I just picked up my fresh block today and will be assembling it through out the week. I have made a couple changes that are gonna set this thing off! I appreciate the kind words chris!

Wait no more

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-bolt-tech/309041-pnp-msns-here.html#post151617429

 

[420aNEWB]

here is mine

u win

 

[Turbizmo]

I rather stick on the low side away from the cops. I have a 16g on my 420a baby try to make it look as stock as possible greddy type s bov had to be painted so that the pigs cant say nothing.

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[NeMiZiS]

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Stock.. a few weeks after i bought her from the dealer...

That is not a stock intake.It looks like a cold air intake of some kind.

 

[NeMiZiS]

Got me I"m gonna PM him and tell him to respond here and we'll let him explain more but with the IAT sensor in the intake I bet he's standalone and that's a MSD coil looks like.

My msd has the plugs coming from the sides, not the top. I've never seen that coil pack before.
Here is a borrowed pic of a 420a with the msd coil.

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And then this one?See how it is on top?....

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[Locke]

See post #216.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151600047-post216.html

 

[NeMiZiS]

See post #216.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151600047-post216.html

Wow , I totally missed that.
So does this Accel EDIS coil have a higher voltage output than a msd?...
They seem to be a little bit cheaper than a msd too.