Petition Against /For [Merged 3-8]

[Dragon TalonTsi]

Mitsu ended the Turbo AWD eclipse for practicality reasons... They weren't selling. AWD, Turbo, 2 door isn't that practical, and is expensive to insure. Yes, they have a huge following, but when they were on showroom floors, they weren't selling... I will try and find the e-mail from the rep about why they axed the 2g design.

Yeah they were about 25-27k, almost what the Evo's are now. I test drove (I really drove em) every single Evo that came out since 03 til now. The 06 MR was the best by far, but I am still biased towards the DSM platform. And I do remember when I was younger, that DSM's were ahead of thier time by far, and Mitsu didn't know how to handle it. The import scene wasn't in the sights yet, now it is, but yeah they have the biggest following out of any of the SC cars out today, but when they were in make and production, people were still new to the idea of turbo and awd combos. That is what paved the road for the Import scene, now that DSM's helped make the market what it is today along with 3/S's too, the 6g72. People didn't know what they had til it was gone.

 

[spinninfwdlaser]

Screw this new engine, we love our legendary 4g63! Signed.

 

[Afroclipse]

4G63T is like the TERMINATOR no matter what newer engines, with cool gadgets and stuff you bring it still whoop ass and is the last ones to go down. Let me take that back I ment it kills itself (Crankwalk)

 

[ETS Tom]

I have my hopes up for the 4B11T. The 4g63 is still kicking ass at almost 20 years old, I can only imagine that they've come up with something better in that time If not, our cars are one step closer to collector's items!

Tom

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

Yeah, lets hope so. I don't think we will ever be on Barret-Jackson though...

 

[Thomas91169]

Yeah, lets hope so. I don't think we will ever be on Barret-Jackson though...

nope but im sure in time cars of our generation will be auctioned off in the same fashion under a different auction company. B-J is for american classics, hot rods, muscle, etc, thats what it is and its what it will always be. 40 years from now it will still be auctioning just that. 40 years from now there might be someone else auctioning off pristine modern muscle, import, sport compacts or the like in the same fashion but catering to a different crowd.

 

[Defiant]

Yeah, lets hope so. I don't think we will ever be on Barret-Jackson though...

Those of us who were there and who drove and owned those hideous piece of shit oxcarts that are pulling a half-million and up on B-J never thought those would, either.
Figure out what tomorrow will want and you can outdo Warren Buffet.

If you started in cars after the eighties, you have no idea just how goddamned LOUSY the cars up until then really were. And, still are. Shiniest turds you ever saw. But, still turds.

 

[JOEY A]

You cant compare your dsm to a evo.......unless your smoking crack, im not baised at all..

Evo's are a way way better build car, and can do more out of the box etc

 

[Raph]

Robot your talking about an evo you've never seen except in a french movie. Seems your the one reading DATA, like i said whether you like it or not the evo stock for stock or modified the only time we look better is if we have a better pocket. Stop drinking that haterrade and accept the truth. The evo is better looking inside and out, i can't believe you called MIVEC junk and the updated AWD system even without active YAW. Just like a DSM a evo was made to do what it does and if you want to add on to it expect it to break. Put 350 horses on a stock 2g clutch and see what happens. You know what this isn't even a XBOX 360 vs PS3 argument its a XBOX 360 vs PS2 argument.When was the last time you heard an EVO owner say Eff this I want my 2g back hell no.

best looking evo was the evo5 and 6 , but i like the 5 better, they look soooo good ..too bad a used evo 5 costs as much as a used 6,which costs more than a used 7 or 8..

 

[DSM_Zak]

Aside from bringing the 4G63T back into some sort of chassis, bring the Evo WAGON to US waters. Subaru has sport-compact wagon business by the balls! Give them something to work for!

 

[Defiant]

Damn, I was just about to start a petition to bring this thread back.

 

[Elvenhome21]

http://www.theracingnetwork.com/

Finally a network with NO 24/7 NASCAR

 

[turbo1307]

itd be like telling NBC, CBS and FOX to drop footbal on sundays for Soccer or Hockey.

I was thinking more like ESPN would drop golf or tennis.

We are talking about a channel that is devoted to speed. I think they do a good job of covering al the racing events. I know where we are there are another 200+ channels to choose from if you don’t like it change the channel. I also know when they do all 24 hours of lemans I can only take about 30 min before I have to switch to something else.

Maybe they should come out with a channel for every sport, racing event to every kind of music so people will crying about stupid crap and just change the channel. It was easy enough for you to click onto speed it should be easy enough to click to something else.

 

[Ludachris]

I was thinking more like ESPN would drop golf or tennis.

We are talking about a channel that is devoted to speed. I think they do a good job of covering al the racing events. I know where we are there are another 200+ channels to choose from if you don’t like it change the channel. I also know when they do all 24 hours of lemans I can only take about 30 min before I have to switch to something else.

Maybe they should come out with a channel for every sport, racing event to every kind of music so people will crying about stupid crap and just change the channel. It was easy enough for you to click onto speed it should be easy enough to click to something else.

I wish I could change the channel and find WRC, BTCC, ELMS, and other forms of sports car racing that only SPEED Channel would cover (that is, if they weren't playing some 5-year old NASCAR race replay or some NASCAR talk show). But those channels don't exist.

None of us have a problem with changing the channel when we don't like it. I only watch SPEED via Tivo these days anyway. The problem is there is plenty of racing SPEED does not cover because of the excessive NASCAR programming that takes up the majority of their schedule. The whole idea here is to try and get SPEED to cover more racing that is being missed due to the excessive NASCAR programming.

Unfortunately it's a losing battle with SPEED every since Fox bought them out. If I ever came into some big money I'd make a big impact on the racing media market, believe me. It's one of my big goals in life. SPEED can have NASCAR - I'd make sure all other sports car racing fans found the coverage they don't get on SPEED.

 

[turbo1307]

I agree with you Ludachris, they do show a lot of NASCAR but I'd rather watch that then bob sledding and I don’t need to be watching some 5 year old race. I also wish there were more racing channels that showed WRC and all that good stuff. I have been to a rally and those are a blast. Maybe instead of a petition to get rid of NASCAR off speed, there was something that went with it like, less NASCAR and more WRC, BTCC and ELMS then submit that over to speed. Maybe we can get a DSM channel and discuss 6 bolt swaps, awd conversions and then 4g63 hybrids for the more advanced guys. With all the music channels that are out there, there can be a few more car/racing channels.

 

[sccrAdidas15]

i'm somewhat a NASCAR fan, but like everyone else has been saying this is America, showing more of other racing would be like fox sports, ect showing more soccer instead of football, it's all about the ratings, they would be stupid to show other things. I think speed does a preety good job, they could do better i guess.

 

[Defiant]

I have many issues with networks buying cable channels, and the cross-whoring that goes on. But the media business in this country -sorry, on this planet is so hideously polluted that it's a joke. And that's without the political angles involved.
I'm just a bit encouraged to see F1 coverage broadening a bit on SPEED, although I can feel my teeth cracking when they have to do the FOX broadcasts out-of-time, and the announcers have to explain such things as why the tires are round. You'd never hear Hobbs telling the world that someone's a fäg paper's width away from the wall on network broadcasts. Because we live in a free country, you know.
And the Versus coverage of the Tour de France is still some of the best sports TV anywhere.

 

[Ludachris]

i'm somewhat a NASCAR fan, but like everyone else has been saying this is America, showing more of other racing would be like fox sports, ect showing more soccer instead of football, it's all about the ratings, they would be stupid to show other things. I think speed does a preety good job, they could do better i guess.

You know what, I wouldn't mind NASCAR so much on SPEED if they just stuck to showing the actual races and maybe had a NASCAR news program. But they have pre-race shows, post-race shows, news, talk shows, shows about old NASCAR races, and other NASCAR programming that goes way beyond just the races. There is very little if any attention given to any other forms of racing that is going on all over the world and plenty of it here in the US. I think F1 (the largest auto racing series in the world) was just finally given a spot for a F1 news slot once a month. WTF

And when NASCAR isn't on I get to watch 200 reruns of Pinks, bobsledding, Unique Whips, Horspower with Joe and Mike's goofy commentary, or some network executive's idea of a crappy "tuner" show full of NOPI crap cars and some ditsy HIN model doing a horrible job at hosting the show... SPEED can definitely do better with their programming - much better.

I think the best non-NASCAR show they have is the Xtreme 4x4 show, and I'm not even into trucks.

I can't wait until the internet starts hosting a lot more of the video feeds that you can't find on TV. The networks will be fighting that tooth and nail I'm sure but it's coming. And we'll all have a lot more choices when it comes to the race programming "we" want, not what corporate America decides to show us because it makes them more money.

 

[asian312]

http://www.theracingnetwork.com/

Finally a network with NO 24/7 NASCAR

I second that! Here's the mass mailer that NASA sent out about it for those not in the loop.
__________________________________________________________________________

Dear NASA Fan,

You are receiving this email because your email address is in NASA’s national database. We very rarely email everyone in the database on a national level, but there is some very important news.

A new all-racing network channel is about to launch in 2008. It will feature many forms of racing. NASA will have at least 10 hours of 1st-run programming (plus reruns) during 2008. This means that you and/ or your race could be shown on this network (even HPDE will be featured!).

However, new networks such as this need help to show that the service provider would gain subscribers. Please take 30 seconds to clink on the link found on this page http://www.theracingnetwork.com, and enter your email address. There is no obligation; this is merely help to get this network on the air. Your email address will not be sold or given out.

I hope you can help; and thank you for the understanding regarding this rare emailing. This will not be a regular thing.

Sincerely,
Jerry Kunzman
Executive Director

 

[redliner84]

someone should petition to mitsubishi to bring back the 2g

i would singe it couse thats the only eclipse i like

 

[Ludachris]

I second that! Here's the mass mailer that NASA sent out about it for those not in the loop.
__________________________________________________________________________

Dear NASA Fan,

You are receiving this email because your email address is in NASA’s national database. We very rarely email everyone in the database on a national level, but there is some very important news.

A new all-racing network channel is about to launch in 2008. It will feature many forms of racing. NASA will have at least 10 hours of 1st-run programming (plus reruns) during 2008. This means that you and/ or your race could be shown on this network (even HPDE will be featured!).

However, new networks such as this need help to show that the service provider would gain subscribers. Please take 30 seconds to clink on the link found on this page http://www.theracingnetwork.com, and enter your email address. There is no obligation; this is merely help to get this network on the air. Your email address will not be sold or given out.

I hope you can help; and thank you for the understanding regarding this rare emailing. This will not be a regular thing.

Sincerely,
Jerry Kunzman
Executive Director

Forget wasting time trying to get SPEED to change their programming. Support groups who will give us the programming we want. I entered my email address to help support their efforts.

 

[BoostFrenzy]

I hate NASCAR with a passion. I think the only solution to this would be for Speed to open an ENTIRE channel for only NASCAR and NASCAR related things, and then the original channel could be for more interesting things. Like road racing or F1 or WRC or other things non-Nascar.

Funniest thing I have read about Nascar in a while:

(Being said to someone from the South in a comic strip)
"NASCAR is a yankee conspiracy to keep you all placated so the South wont rise again."

 

[chicagoavenger]

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp

 

[TheCrazyDSM'r]

Why not try to get a whole bunch of people to start a TV channel for the other Race Car Sports. I know there are other channels that play football as well. Some B budget stations.... I think I saw one call CSS last time I was in America.... Lucky for me I have many options when it comes to motor sports here.


Opps....Luda, posted what I was talking about. So instead of petitioning get together and help out the new network. That is how Speed Channel got big.

 

[Flash]

Has someone already brought up the fact that Speed is a business, they need money to survive and grow. Nascar= money. If they show Nascar programs then it is easier to get sponsor money from other companies such as Home Depot, Chevy, etc... That equals a lot of money.

So in a way, if there was no Nascar on Speed, then we could kiss F1, AMA, ALMS, WSBK, etc all good bye.