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09-23-2008, 08:34 AM
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HX35 Setup
My goal is about 350-400 Hp and to beat my buddys EVO with a 50 trim (Not heavily modded but damn quick),He has the stock FMIC, running 15-20PSI, maybe a fuel pump I dont know and Full IC Piping. My main questions for this thread is am I missing anything will this get me to 400 hp with a good tune and will I be able to beat his EVO, cause I have been talking mad sh*t  ?
HX 35, Bullseye housing
External Wastegate which for my setup?
Exhaust Manifold which is best?
Do I need an Intake Manifold?
02 Housing which is best?
I already have 3" 02 back
K&N Filter, Injen pipe
MBC @ 15PSI
FMIC Kit with 3 inch piping
HKS SSQV BOV
Ported Head, 02, turbo
Brian Crower Cams
Walbro 255
750 Injectors
AFPR
DSM Link
Data Logger
EGT Gauge
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09-23-2008, 08:43 AM
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This has been covered in the Holset threads a few times.
Essentially, you'll need the turbo setup. I've made 400hp on the internal gate HX40 with no issues. You'll need fuel, a pump, a way to control the fuel (AFPR), something to tune the car with (DSMLink).
Depending on which HX35 you have it's probably a little bit larger than said 50 trim. Cam's aren't entirely necessary but always help out.
Give the Holset Thread #3 a lookover and you'll see a few guys make nice numbers on the 35.
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09-23-2008, 08:46 AM
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You could beat your buddys evo even with a 16g since our cars weigh less, but you don't need an intake manifold because the stock one should be fine (unless you have the money to spend then JMF is sweet), the best exhaust manifold would be the tubular ones, but the stock one will do if the turbo has a mitsubishi flange, the waste gate Tial 38mm. Thats all i can think of right now.
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09-24-2008, 02:48 AM
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throw some nitrous on it.
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09-24-2008, 01:03 PM
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HX 35, Bullseye housing this is a good choice 
External Wastegate which for my setup? PR o2 housing with tial 38mm
Exhaust Manifold which is best? ported 2g will work well
Do I need an Intake Manifold? No, you don't need one
02 Housing which is best? I prefer the PR ones, s/s of course
K&N Filter, Injen pipe good choice as well
MBC @ 15PSI 15 psi  25 psi  
FMIC Kit with 3 inch piping why 3"? just wondering 2 1/2" is fine
HKS SSQV BOV please not a knock off version
Ported Head, 02, turbo not really worth it for 400hp
Brian Crower Cams 272's or 280's, don't forget to degree them in
Walbro 255 get the high pressure version
750 Injectors may be just a tad small
AFPR don't forget a good flowing fuel filter setup
DSM Link excellent choice as well
Data Logger already included with dsmlink
EGT Gauge don't forget a wideband, oil pressure, and boost
Over all your list looks good, I added my 2 cents in red
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09-24-2008, 01:10 PM
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I hope your not using a stock clutch
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09-24-2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Project2G
I hope your not using a stock clutch
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Yup Untill it burns up
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09-24-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 90laserRSfwd
HX 35, Bullseye housing this is a good choice 
External Wastegate which for my setup? PR o2 housing with tial 38mm
Exhaust Manifold which is best? ported 2g will work well
Do I need an Intake Manifold? No, you don't need one
02 Housing which is best? I prefer the PR ones, s/s of course
K&N Filter, Injen pipe good choice as well
MBC @ 15PSI 15 psi  25 psi  
FMIC Kit with 3 inch piping why 3"? just wondering 2 1/2" is fine
HKS SSQV BOV please not a knock off version
Ported Head, 02, turbo not really worth it for 400hp
Brian Crower Cams 272's or 280's, don't forget to degree them in
Walbro 255 get the high pressure version
750 Injectors may be just a tad small
AFPR don't forget a good flowing fuel filter setup
DSM Link excellent choice as well
Data Logger already included with dsmlink
EGT Gauge don't forget a wideband, oil pressure, and boost
Over all your list looks good, I added my 2 cents in red
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If 2.5 would be fine I will go that route I just figured 3" exhaust with 3" intake to match would be the best flow wise.
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09-24-2008, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AiR
Yup Untill it burns up
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About 13psi and a few launches and you'll be pulling it apart.
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09-24-2008, 08:12 PM
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Nice setup but your clutch will be your weak point. I'm building a identical setup Hx35 beh,1050cc,dsm link,pr 02 housing w/38mm,272s,etc.
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09-24-2008, 09:19 PM
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 I just ordered up my hx35
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09-25-2008, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OneLove
 I just ordered up my hx35
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Right on I think these turbos have a ton of potential let us know how it goes, and good luck with your install Ill be expecting a post with pictures! lol 
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09-25-2008, 08:14 AM
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build your car accordingly. take the proper steps in building up a solid fuel system first then slapping the turbo on. your not going to go anywhere without it. my current setup is way diffrent then yours but when i was running a stock 6 bolt i was running 24 psi with meth injection and pf2 cams and 650cc injectors. with a m10 nozzle i believe i was seeing 82% idc. now with a built motor, ported head,bc 280 cams, and 880cc injectors (stock intake manifold) im seeing about 75% idc at 28psi and flowing 50-52lbs. my current setup is making more power but what im trying to get at is that your going to have to turn the boost up to see what that turbo can do. when i was running on full bolt on's that turbo needed to be at 24psi to start waking up!
btw you will need a 4" intake...
edit: if your on a stock headgasket/studs you run the risk of blowing it. so be careful that that boost levels. i was very lucky and had a motor that blew the rings before the headgasket but not everyone's car is going to do that...
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