60-1 drivers

[wtalon91]

I am building my car over the winter and I'm wondering what kind of power am i going to see,so I'm asking other dsmers that are running 60-1S for there input. Also what kind of spool up am i going to see and how much would i make? I only planing on running max 25 psi. Is this a good set up or am i going to have to change some things Thanks guys any info would be great

Evo 8 pistons 8.8.1
1g rods
mls gasket
arp studs
60-1
720cc injectors
afpr
Gm maft
fmic

 

[paul s]

I get 20 psi by 4000rpm in 3rd gear, with 272/272 cams. Made 371awhp at 27psi dropping to 26..I'm running 24-25psi daily on 94 octane pump gas..

 

[BrokenTsi]

I just upgraded from a 50 trim to a 60-1, I must say, I prefer the 50trim for the street on pump gas, but the 60-1 on race gas pulls like a raped ape. I did 30psi by 4k rpm's. I laugh at the lag time on this turbo. If anyone complains about it, they're a sissy. I haven't really tuned it on pump tho, as soon as I installed it, i put race gas in it and tried to see if I could blow my motor at 30psi. (zero knock, 12:1 on the wideband with race fuel)

 

[92awddsm]

If 25 psi is going to be your max, the 60-1 isnt for you. I run 25 psi daily on 93 octane but the real power doesnt come untill 28+psi. I am running a pte 5252 with the stage 5 turbine, full 25 psi around 42-4300 rpm and 30 psi around 4500. Street driving is more controlled because you arent in boost all the time but it is only a downshift away.

 

[BrokenTsi]

yeah, i noticed 60-1 will get smoked by 16g's and the like at 20psi. Car barely moves at 20psi. I'm already thinking about selling it because I only run race fuel at the track and certain weekends.

 

[wtalon91]

What is the most i can run on pump gas? Are my internals going to handle this set up?I see stock evo 9's running gt35r and running 30 poundsof boost. I want to run 25 psi daily and more on racegas will the bottom end handle 26-28 pounds. I do not want to get smoked by 16g cars. please give me more info guys thanks

 

[THE_ARTIST_]

i run 20 psi on the street (93 octane). but when i had it at 14-15 psi and running rich as hell i only made like 200 whp, then i dynoed it at 20 psi, and leaned out a bit it put down 252 whp and 272 ft/lb (i agree that the 60-1 doesent see its real potential until around 25-30psi but ive never run mine that high...yet). but im pretty sure that my 1G bov wasnt staying closed and i think im at the limits of the SAFC, so im going to get DSM link and a new FMIC (and BOV) in the next few weeks. hopefully i can tune it around 350-400 whp on pump gas.

the torque steer on it is evil though

DSM link or AEM EMS would be a good addition to your list.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

If you're getting trashed by 16g's, you can't tune worth a shit. I can't count how many people have made 400+whp on pump with this turbo, and many in the 400-425 range are doing it at 20-22 PSI.

 

[CanadianTalon]

If you guys look at the 60-1 compressor map it's peak efficiency is right around 2.00 PR, or 14 pounds of boost. If you're making 252 WHP at 20 psi on a 60-1 you're doin something seriously wrong.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

If you guys look at the 60-1 compressor map it's peak efficiency is right around 2.00 PR, or 14 pounds of boost. If you're making 252 WHP at 20 psi on a 60-1 you're doin something seriously wrong.

Don't bother looking at the 60-1 compressor map. The 60-1 is garbage on paper, and great in real-world use.

And no, I do not simply say this because I own one.

 

[THE_ARTIST_]

when i dynoed it (and anytime on the street) above 15-16 psi i can hear a loud hissing sound im 99% sure that my BOV is opening prematurly, and there is a few other things i need to work out with tuning and such.

i made peak power at ~4800 rpm (15-18psi) and it stayed up there for a little while, and started to fall off around 6300-6500 rpm, we were also doing 4th gear pulls because they were having trouble getting good readings on 3rd gear pulls. other cars that have similar turbo setups are getting peak power at 6000-7000 rpm, and i hit the speed limiter around 6900 rpm as well. so i had a few problems with my run, plus i havent really tuned it much since my wideband broke...

 

[CanadianTalon]

Don't bother looking at the 60-1 compressor map. The 60-1 is garbage on paper, and great in real-world use.

And no, I do not simply say this because I own one.

I don't think it looks too bad on paper, lots of low speed efficiency and still moves a butt load of air on the top end. I had one on my Integra for a while and loved it, but people seem to be afraid of it with the availability of some of the newer GT-series wheels nowadays.

 

[BrokenTsi]

If you're getting trashed by 16g's, you can't tune worth a shit. I can't count how many people have made 400+whp on pump with this turbo, and many in the 400-425 range are doing it at 20-22 PSI.

I never said that I actually got smoked by a 16g on my 60-1, all I'm sayin is that the turbo is garbage at sissy boost levels like 20psi, compared to 25 or more at least. I wasn't impressed with it at all at 20psi on pump, I dunno, maybe i'm just used to my car, so I'm faster than I think, it just doesn't feel that impressive until I tried 28-30psi on race gas. I think my 50trim would own me on the street, for some reason my last turbo was just sick. Im going to run it at the track this weekend and see what it can really do. I'll let you guys know.

First I have to pull the transmission because I snapped the pivot ball for the clutch fork. Bet you've never seen anyone do that before. It blew my mind when I looked up into the transmission to see what was wrong with it. WTF

 

[wtalon91]

My 60-1 is a custom turbo it has a mitsubishi 25g compressor cover with the 60-1 compressor wheel witha mitsubishi TDO6h turbine wheel. Maybe that will help you guys out.

 

[hairybeanbag]

yeah, i noticed 60-1 will get smoked by 16g's and the like at 20psi. Car barely moves at 20psi. I'm already thinking about selling it because I only run race fuel at the track and certain weekends.

60-1 spools fast with a 50 shot or with the 2 step off the line, I'll have my car in westchester NY over the holidays I'd love to see a 16g smoke any car with a 60-1 with a good driver. If you'r looking for a evo3 with less than 100 miles I'd trade you for your 60-1 and a few bucks?

As race gas go's we buy it here in colorado for $5.14per gallon, that's not really expensive compaired to 91 here, but I only drive my car for fun too.

 

[BrokenTsi]

I never complained about spool time. Mine spools ridiculously fast even with my 272's.

I'm not saying its a bad turbo. I know its potential. Before everyone takes offense to what I'm saying, try to actually pay attention to the point I'm making before trying to be a bunch of smart asses. The only point I made is that the 60-1 is junk at 20psi, true or not?

 

[92awddsm]

I never complained about spool time. Mine spools ridiculously fast even with my 272's.

I'm not saying its a bad turbo. I know its potential. Before everyone takes offense to what I'm saying, try to actually pay attention to the point I'm making before trying to be a bunch of smart asses. The only point I made is that the 60-1 is junk at 20psi, true or not?

I agree.

 

[slvrstingray]

Not to trying to thread jack or anything, but what size AR housing are you guys running on your exhuast side? I'm running my .63 AR housing right now, but I also have the .82 sitting on the bench. Just want to comare what other are using.

 

[92awddsm]

Not to trying to thread jack or anything, but what size AR housing are you guys running on your exhuast side? I'm running my .63 AR housing right now, but I also have the .82 sitting on the bench. Just want to comare what other are using.

Im running the pte housing which I think is .63 a/r from what they told me.

 

[gimmie11s]

the PTE housing is not even close to a true .63 t3 housing in scroll section area. That is false advertising on PTE's part as far as im concerned.

the 60-1 is a great wheel. As mentioned earlier, no one uses it as it is much more popular to throw on a gt40 wheel.

the 60-1 is a 30+ psi wheel. Those who do not plan on going past 25 psi need to stick with a 20g or green.

-d

 

[Slippi84]

I got a deal from the first batch of new PTE BB 60-1's(6031BB) I think that the 60-1 gets a bad wrap cause you have a lot of guys puttin it on thinkin well the 50 trim makes good power on pump and the 60-1 is bigger let me go and make more power and that's just not the case. A good 60-1 can make 600hp and with the new BB cartidge should spool quite a bit faster but gimme11's is right this is not a low psi turbo. Get ballz get get race gas then get 60-1.

 

[92awddsm]

A good 60-1 can make 600hp and with the new BB cartidge should spool quite a bit faster but gimme11's is right this is not a low psi turbo. Get ballz get get race gas then get 60-1.

I have to agree also. Those thinking of getting a 60-1 just to run 20 psi has a lot to learn. If 20-22 psi is all you plan to run, get a 50trim because the 60-1 is too large for you. Like I said, I run 25psi on pump gas with mine but it doesnt even start to shine untill 28+ psi. Worst part is that my last trip to the track, I couldnt even get traction at that low of boost so I didnt even add race gas and turn up the boost.

 

[92GSXBaltimore]

if your not going to run the thing where it makes the most power +28psi, then get something that makes the power where you are going to be running. Too many people these days who arent planning on running over 20psi are getting large turbos for no good apparent reason other to say, "I've got a 60 trim yo!!". Maybe its just me but that is what it seems like to me.

 

[BrokenTsi]

Welp, I decided to tear out my tranny last night so I can run my car this weekend. God damn pivot ball snapped. WTF

Anyways, I had 1/4 tank of race gas left and I re-tuned the car to 28-29ish psi and it felt pretty good. I ran it all out and re-tuned for pump at 25psi and maybe its not as bad as I thought. Car seemed to run pretty good at 25psi.

Its almost the end of the season for my car, I blew my 50 trim and needed a quick replacement because I wanted to race one last time before the tracks closed. I'll probably end up selling the turbo to get a full garret setup. I'm sick of these mitsu housings.

 

[CanadianTalon]

if your not going to run the thing where it makes the most power +28psi, then get something that makes the power where you are going to be running. Too many people these days who arent planning on running over 20psi are getting large turbos for no good apparent reason other to say, "I've got a 60 trim yo!!". Maybe its just me but that is what it seems like to me.

With the proper tuning at 20 psi a 60-1 will make more power than a 50-trim, a 16G, whatever you want to compare it to that's smaller than. It's not in it's best efficiency window, but it's still moving a crapload more air and power than a smaller turbo.