VPC 660 chip = CRAZY timing!

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Just got a VPC/SAFC combo installed on my Galant the other day. First off, I must say that I love the combo. Whoever says it's not "street-drivable" either hasn't run it first-hand or can't tune to save their lives. Anyhoo, on to my question/concern. I've got 650 injectors and the Buschur 660 chip and at WOT I'm seeing ~30* of timing. Yes, you read that right. ~30* of timing! I've heard that this is a problem with the 660 chips. Because they dial back so much airflow to compensate for the larger injectors the ECU thinks there's less load on the engine and thus rewards you with more timing. But I strongly feel that this is a bit TOO much timing for WOT. I'm getting some pesky knock at ~5500 and above that I can't seem to tune out completely. I'm thinking that the radically advanced timing is playing a part in the knock. Anyone running the 660 chip care to chime in? Anyone running the 550 chip/660 injector combo care to chime in (thinking of going this route actually)? Just looking to see if my car is an absolute freak or if there are others out there like me

 

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Had 660cc with 550 chip it works fine and timing is good.
timing was about the same as this currentt set up which is 780cc with 550cc VPC chip. I have an AFR too.
Time RPM Knock Timing O2 Airflow Inj P/W TPS
00:25.0 3438 0 32 0.86 447 5.897 82
00:25.1 3406 0 32 0.88 454 6.154 82
00:25.3 3469 0 31 0.88 479 6.41 81
00:25.5 3469 0 31 0.88 473 6.41 81
00:25.6 3531 0 30 0.88 510 6.667 81
00:25.8 3438 1 29 0.88 517 6.923 81
00:26.0 3500 1 28 0.86 548 7.179 81
00:26.1 3562 0 29 0.86 561 7.179 81
00:26.3 3594 0 29 0.86 586 7.436 81
00:26.5 3625 0 29 0.86 592 7.436 81
00:26.6 3594 0 28 0.86 617 7.692 81
00:26.8 3594 0 28 0.84 649 7.949 81
00:26.9 3688 0 27 0.86 662 8.462 81
00:27.1 3688 0 27 0.86 699 8.718 81
00:27.3 3781 1 27 0.86 718 9.231 81
00:27.4 3781 1 25 0.86 750 9.487 81
00:27.6 3875 5 24 0.86 794 10.256 81
00:27.8 3844 5 24 0.86 844 11.026 81
00:27.9 3938 4 23 0.88 895 11.538 81
00:28.1 3969 11 21 0.88 914 12.051 81
00:28.3 4000 11 20 0.88 932 11.795 81
00:28.5 4062 10 20 0.88 951 12.051 82
00:28.6 4094 10 20 0.88 958 12.308 82
00:28.8 4125 10 20 0.88 970 12.564 82
00:29.0 4219 10 21 0.9 1002 12.821 82
00:29.1 4219 9 20 0.88 1014 12.821 82
00:29.3 4188 9 21 0.9 1046 13.077 82
00:29.4 4281 9 21 0.9 1065 13.333 82
00:29.6 4344 9 21 0.9 1077 13.333 82
00:29.8 4375 8 21 0.9 1090 13.59 82
00:29.9 4406 8 21 0.9 1103 13.59 85
00:30.1 4438 8 21 0.9 1121 13.59 87
00:30.3 4438 7 21 0.9 1115 13.59 87
00:30.4 4531 7 20 0.9 1153 13.846 87
00:30.6 4531 7 20 0.9 1172 13.846 88
00:30.7 4531 7 20 0.9 1184 14.103 88
00:30.9 4688 6 21 0.9 1191 13.846 88
00:31.0 4625 6 21 0.9 1203 13.846 88
00:31.2 4656 6 22 0.9 1191 14.103 88
00:31.3 4750 6 22 0.9 1216 14.103 88
00:31.4 4750 5 21 0.9 1229 14.103 88
00:31.6 4781 5 22 0.9 1229 14.103 88
00:31.7 4781 5 22 0.9 1222 14.103 88
00:31.8 4875 5 22 0.9 1254 14.103 88
00:32.0 4875 5 22 0.9 1254 14.103 88
00:32.1 4906 4 22 0.9 1266 14.103 88
00:32.2 4906 4 21 0.9 1279 14.103 88
00:32.3 4969 4 22 0.9 1273 14.359 88
00:32.5 4969 4 21 0.9 1310 14.359 88
00:32.6 5000 4 23 0.9 1273 14.103 88
00:32.7 5062 3 23 0.9 1304 14.103 88
00:32.8 5125 3 23 0.9 1279 14.103 88
00:33.0 5062 3 23 0.9 1285 14.359 89
00:33.1 5188 3 22 0.9 1323 14.359 89
00:33.3 5031 3 23 0.9 1342 14.615 90
00:33.4 5062 3 23 0.9 1348 14.359 90
00:33.6 5188 3 23 0.9 1336 14.615 90
00:33.7 5250 3 23 0.9 1367 14.615 90
00:33.8 5250 2 24 0.9 1373 14.872 90
00:34.0 5281 2 23 0.9 1418 14.872 90
00:34.1 5375 2 23 0.9 1380 14.615 91
00:34.2 5344 2 23 0.9 1424 14.872 91
00:34.3 5375 3 23 0.9 1411 15.128 91
00:34.4 5219 2 24 0.9 1405 14.872 91
00:34.5 5438 2 24 0.9 1430 14.872 92
00:34.7 5562 2 23 0.9 1443 15.128 92
00:34.8 5469 2 24 0.9 1462 14.872 92
00:34.9 5469 2 24 0.9 1449 14.872 92
00:35.1 5688 1 24 0.88 1468 14.872 92
00:35.2 5469 1 24 0.88 1481 14.872 93
00:35.3 5594 1 25 0.88 1493 15.128 93
00:35.4 5531 1 24 0.88 1512 14.872 93
00:35.5 5625 1 24 0.88 1430 15.128 93
00:35.7 5719 0 26 0.88 1474 15.128 93
00:35.8 5500 0 27 0.88 1487 15.128 93
00:35.9 5656 0 27 0.88 1512 15.128 93
00:36.0 5594 0 26 0.88 1525 15.128 93
00:36.1 5562 0 25 0.88 1525 15.128 94
00:36.2 5844 0 27 0.88 1525 15.128 94
00:36.4 5625 0 27 0.88 1525 15.128 94
00:36.5 5781 0 27 0.88 1506 14.872 94
00:36.6 5625 0 26 0.88 1537 15.128 94
00:36.7 5719 1 27 0.88 1512 14.872 94
00:36.8 5781 0 28 0.88 1512 14.872 94
00:36.9 5969 0 28 0.88 1512 14.872 94
00:37.1 5875 0 28 0.88 1531 14.615 95
00:37.2 5875 0 29 0.88 1537 14.872 95
00:37.3 5875 0 27 0.88 1556 14.872 95
00:37.4 5906 0 29 0.88 1550 15.128 95
00:37.5 5906 0 27 0.88 1512 15.128 95
00:37.6 5906 1 28 0.88 1512 15.128 95
00:37.7 5906 1 27 0.88 1607 15.128 95
00:37.8 5969 1 28 0.88 1544 14.872 95
00:37.9 6031 1 28 0.88 1556 15.128 95
00:38.0 5969 0 29 0.88 1550 15.385 95
00:38.2 6062 0 29 0.88 1600 15.385 95
00:38.3 5781 0 29 0.88 1607 15.385 95
00:38.4 5906 0 29 0.88 1607 15.128 95
00:38.5 5906 0 28 0.88 1562 15.385 95
00:38.6 6094 0 28 0.88 1607 15.128 95
00:38.7 6031 0 28 0.88 1581 15.385 95
00:38.8 6062 0 28 0.88 1607 15.385 95
00:38.9 6156 0 29 0.88 1607 15.385 95
00:39.0 6125 0 29 0.88 1607 15.385 95
00:39.1 6188 0 28 0.88 1581 15.385 95
00:39.2 6156 0 29 0.88 1607 15.128 95
00:39.3 6062 1 27 0.88 1607 15.385 95
00:39.5 6250 1 27 0.88 1607 14.872 95
00:39.6 6062 1 27 0.88 1594 14.872 95
00:39.7 6281 1 27 0.88 1569 14.872 95
00:39.8 6188 0 28 0.88 1575 14.615 95
00:39.9 6156 0 27 0.88 1588 14.872 95
00:40.0 6250 0 28 0.88 1607 14.615 95
00:40.1 6125 0 28 0.88 1588 14.615 95
00:40.2 6281 0 29 0.88 1588 14.615 95
00:40.4 6250 0 28 0.88 1575 14.615 95
00:40.5 6469 0 27 0.88 1594 14.359 95
00:40.6 6312 0 28 0.88 1569 14.359 95
00:40.7 6312 0 28 0.88 1588 14.359 95
00:40.8 6344 0 27 0.88 1581 14.359 95
00:40.9 6281 0 27 0.88 1581 14.359 95
00:41.0 6469 0 28 0.88 1607 14.359 95
00:41.1 6375 0 27 0.88 1594 14.359 95
00:41.2 6375 0 27 0.88 1562 14.103 95
00:41.3 6375 0 27 0.88 1544 14.103 95
00:41.5 6344 0 27 0.88 1562 14.103 95
00:41.6 6438 0 28 0.88 1531 13.846 95
00:41.7 6406 0 28 0.88 1556 14.103 95
00:41.8 6531 0 27 0.88 1525 13.846 95
00:41.9 6469 0 27 0.88 1607 13.846 95
00:42.0 6500 0 29 0.88 1537 14.103 95
00:42.1 6562 0 27 0.88 1588 14.103 95
00:42.3 6594 0 29 0.88 1518 13.846 95
00:42.4 6594 0 27 0.88 1518 13.846 95
00:42.5 6688 0 26 0.88 1556 13.59 95
00:42.6 6531 0 27 0.88 1537 13.59 95
00:42.7 6438 0 27 0.88 1531 13.59 95
00:42.8 6625 0 27 0.88 1544 13.59 95
00:42.9 6719 0 27 0.88 1556 13.59 95
00:43.0 6719 0 27 0.88 1537 13.59 95
00:43.2 6500 0 28 0.88 1544 13.59 95
00:43.3 6688 0 27 0.88 1544 13.333 95
00:43.4 6688 0 27 0.88 1550 13.333 95
00:43.5 6719 0 25 0.88 1525 13.59 96
00:43.6 6844 0 27 0.88 1525 13.333 96
00:43.7 6875 0 26 0.88 1531 13.333 96
00:43.8 6906 0 26 0.88 1512 13.077 96
00:44.0 6844 0 26 0.88 1525 13.077 96
00:44.1 6875 0 26 0.88 1531 13.077 96
00:44.2 6844 0 26 0.88 1518 13.333 96
00:44.3 6938 0 25 0.88 1537 13.077 96
00:44.4 6750 0 27 0.88 1493 12.564 96
00:44.5 6938 0 26 0.88 1499 12.564 96
00:44.7 6750 0 26 0.88 1462 12.308 96
00:44.8 6906 0 28 0.88 1481 12.564 96
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00:45.0 6812 0 26 0.88 1487 12.308 96
00:45.1 6938 0 25 0.88 1468 12.308 96
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00:45.7 7031 0 25 0.88 1474 12.308 96