ECMlink ECMLink V3 Beta Report

[jpbrazill]

I am beta testing V3 on speed density for ECMLink. I can not release any specific information at this point, but I can tell you that Hal and I have begun the testing. So far, the ECMLink V3 client and wizard are absolutely amazing. Don't get me wrong, V2 is also a great tuning tool, however V3 really takes the cake.

If you are considering the upgrade from V2 to V3, get it. It is worth every dollar. The MAFT cable is also a great piece. If you are using an SAFC and don't have an EPROM, no worries. Send your ECU to ECMLink and they can install provisions for V3. This would be cheaper than purchasing an EPROM and getting it socketed.

We now have the maf dialed in for drivability, and the snow is melting. The map sensor and IAT sensor have been installed. Speed density testing will follow this week.

 

[-TunedDSM-]

Awesome, keep us updated!

 

[m_0ney_pit]

is the speed density only for the 1g

 

[MidnightTSI]

Great to hear JP! Speed Density is the hotness.

 

[jpbrazill]

is the speed density only for the 1g

Technically, speed density is not available for either, yet. But, it will be available to the public for both 1G and 2G at some point.

 

[4gsx63]

talontsiturbo20, when are you planning to have the SD results post?

There is not as much secrets about the ECMlink V3 SD as one might think. If you're interest in running V3 SD talk to Tom/Dave. You might have to show them you have basic understanding about tuning and have IAT/MAP sensor installed. They might allow you to test it on your own. The more SD testers proving SD works for general public, the quicker it will get release.

 

[Burnett03]

Sounds more like bragging...

 

[jpbrazill]

talontsiturbo20, when are you planning to have the SD results post?

There is not as much secrets about the ECMlink V3 SD as one might think. If you're interest in running V3 SD talk to Tom/Dave. You might have to show them you have basic understanding about tuning and have IAT/MAP sensor installed. They might allow you to test it on your own. The more SD testers proving SD works for general public, the quicker it will get release.

Actually, I am testing for Tom, through Hal. Tom provided me with all of the components for testing and we are just waiting on results. The snow is finally melting, so basic drivability tuning will start this week. I know that their is at least one other person in a 1G testing this same setup for Tom.


Hack, nipples? Haha. No secrets guys, just following the rules. V3 has been available to the public for a little while now, except for the speed density portion. Hype....maybe. This stuff is really cool to play around with.

Burnette.

Bragging? Not so much. I'm just informing members of whats in the works right now. I don't see anything wrong with keeping people up-to-date with whats going on right now. A lot of people in our area have been asking for this stuff for a while now. As far as bragging goes, there are plenty of beta-testers that have vehicles that are more powerful and capable than mine. I'm just happy that I can positively contribute.

 

[marcmsj]

Good stuff, looking forward to upgrading to V3 when speed density is included. Much cheaper alternative than an AEM

 

[vinnybean]

2G guys can use an EVO8 ECU now. Why wait for SD to come out for dsmlink when the EVO ECU's can use SD already.

 

[demografik]

Good stuff, looking forward to upgrading to V3 when speed density is included. Much cheaper alternative than an AEM

you can run sd right now for much cheaper than v3 or aem.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tun...l-free-speed-density-tuning-software-1gs.html

 

[Side_Show]

How much PSI are you running on current setup? Just curious if your gonna be running 30+psi with the SD

 

[JayRolla]

If you look on the dsmlink forums they have been running it awhile without a hitch. Cant wait for SD, tired of the maf getting bad readings and stalling out. Even with the v3 idle clamp it still likes to stall out in hot weather.

 

[marcmsj]

you can run sd right now for much cheaper than v3 or aem.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tun...l-free-speed-density-tuning-software-1gs.html

It only supports a 3bar MAP sensor? That wouldn't be enough for me.

 

[jpbrazill]

If you look on the dsmlink forums they have been running it awhile without a hitch. Cant wait for SD, tired of the maf getting bad readings and stalling out. Even with the v3 idle clamp it still likes to stall out in hot weather.

Hmm, I have not experienced any stalling on the GM maf. Shoot Hal a PM on rmdsm, he should be able to help you out.

 

[toofast82]

2G guys can use an EVO8 ECU now. Why wait for SD to come out for dsmlink when the EVO ECU's can use SD already.

Do the Evo guys already re-code the ecu for speed density?
Why has no one done it for 2g yet? Obviously, its been done for 1g

BTW, I use a bin file from early 2006 by Nick Sanders thats in the Yahoo forums for my speed density. So its been available for awhile for 1gs

 

[SpeedAddict62]

It only supports a 3bar MAP sensor? That wouldn't be enough for me.

Jackal supports 2, 3, 3.5, and 5 bar sensors. Although I'm pretty sure you lose resolution with the larger sensors. But what kind of sensor will be supported by V3? At those kind of boost levels, I hope you seriously consider a full standalone. Any program you use otherwise will be limited by the ability of the stock ECU.

 

[SpeedAddict62]

Do the Evo guys already re-code the ecu for speed density?
Why has no one done it for 2g yet? Obviously, its been done for 1g

BTW, I use a bin file from early 2006 by Nick Sanders thats in the Yahoo forums for my speed density. So its been available for awhile for 1gs

Yup!

Links to jcsbanks' Speed Density patches - evolutionm.net
Speed Density Implementation Discussion - evolutionm.net
It's alive! (Speed density, stock ECU) - evolutionm.net

 

[toofast82]

Yup!

Links to jcsbanks' Speed Density patches - evolutionm.net
Speed Density Implementation Discussion - evolutionm.net
It's alive! (Speed density, stock ECU) - evolutionm.net

Wow, didn't know that
Once you run the speed density, you won't go back to maf, i can tell you that much

 

[marcmsj]

At the moment, yes...you could run a larger sensor but you lose resolution. But what kind of sensor will be supported by V3? At those kind of boost levels, I hope you seriously consider a full standalone. Any program you use otherwise will be limited by the ability of the stock ECU.

Fair enough, I'll look into it. I honestly haven't considered full density until I finished this set up and realized how much I would benefit from it. I'm just not trying to get in over my head with this thing.

 

[toofast82]

Fair enough, I'll look into it. I honestly haven't considered full density until I finished this set up and realized how much I would benefit from it. I'm just not trying to get in over my head with this thing.

if it is set for 3bar and you run a 5bar, it may be on the wrong timing/fuel cell on the maps. I know for my file, if i went larger on the map sensor, i would have to change the "map scalar" so it goes through the load maps correctly.
Hopefully they will implement a "selectable map sensor", they'll probably $charge$ for it as an upgrade I think everyone has spent enough already?

 

[dsmusmc]

Think im just going to stick it out with the MAFT PRO sense it has been proven to work for SD and i can use my 5 bar MAP.

 

[SpeedAddict62]

Ya and all that time and money I spent, and continue to spend running a web server, offering support for it is just fluff ?

The latest jackal has support for larger and smaller map sensors.

That is what I get for not checking the Jackal forums in a while. I'll edit my previous post. Question though: going bigger than a 3 bar on a stock ecu loses quite a bit of resolution, no?

 

[toofast82]

That is what I get for not checking the Jackal forums in a while. I'll edit my previous post. Question though: going bigger than a 3 bar on a stock ecu loses quite a bit of resolution, no?

I'm sure he adjusts the scalar to bring them in check for the various sensors
Hopefully V3 would implement a similar feature

 

[SpeedAddict62]

I'm sure he adjusts the scalar to bring them in check for the various sensors
Hopefully V3 would implement a similar feature

Oh, I'm sure, you can run any size sensor with the right scalar. What I mean is, with a bigger sensor, you lose resolution in your maps because you are still limited by 16 load rows. Example for a 3 bar: 3/16 = .1875 Bar/row. For a 5 bar: 5/16 = .3125 Bar/row. So it would make tuning less accurate, the only way around this would be to increase the number or load rows.