clutch pedal slow release

janks85 · Jan 22, 2007

Hey guys, Ive searched and and cant seem to find out why this is, My clutch pedal grabs fine, and has pressure when pushing down, But it is very slow coming back up, their is no flued behind the boot of the slave, and I bled the system many times. I did check need the clutch pedal and it seems to look like a little bit of fluid is on the boot inside the car where the rod comes in for the clutch, would that be the master leaking or the rod/pushrod(I dont know what to call it)

Thanks guys
chris

Cs4g63 · Jan 22, 2007

If there is fluid on the rod for the clutch master than its time to get a new one. What happened if there is fluid is that the seal went bad in the master and is allowing fluid out and air in.

janks85 · Jan 22, 2007

Ok so you saying replace the master. Ok than thats what ill do, cause everyone was saying it was the slave but their is no fluid need the slave to indicate it is leaking. The only fluid I see is inside the car where the rod comes out of the wall, on the boot. So I thought either the master or maybe the rod itself had a seal that might have blew

chris,

Cs4g63 · Jan 22, 2007

Think of the clutch master as the same thing as the slave. If there is fluid coming from it the seal inside has gone bad and it needs to be replaced.

janks85 · Jan 22, 2007

Ok thanks for the help, very much appreciated

chris,

Cs4g63 · Jan 22, 2007

Not a problem. Good luck.

Anonymity · Jan 22, 2007

hey i had the same problem with the peddal goin down just not coming up... i just replaced the slave and master and all was fine :thumb:

janks85 · Jan 22, 2007

Nice, Cause I was getting a little worried a couple days ago cause a couple of people were saying it could be my rear main seal leaking onto the clutch, But also I would think that would cause slipping and both soft pedal down and slow rising..

thanks for the assurance

janks85 · Jan 31, 2007

Well here is an update. Just for kicks I took it to a mechanic down the street, he told me the slave and master was fine and that their is prob air stuck in the line somewhere(slave and master were both changed recently and clutch has been like this since) and just daily driving it will push it through. Is their anything else I can do, Ive bled it like 3 different times already. Is he right with just driving it will push the air through and will fix itself?

its just so damn annoying when the pedal doesnt shoot back up like it should, its fine for daily driving but anytime i shoot through gears the pedal doesnt come up fast enough.

any help?

chris

shaunman1979 · Jan 31, 2007

So you see fluid leaking out the shaft on the master, and your still wondering if its bad? Did this mechanic you took it too bleed your system for you? How did he confirm that the leaking fluid was not due to a bad master? You say it was replaced a just recently and your clutch has been acting the same it could be a bad part was installed. Did you replace the master the first time or have a shop do it?

janks85 · Jan 31, 2007

I just bought the car and when i bought it i got a reciept for new trans/clutch/slave/and master, the kid said it needed to be bled again(cause it was recently all done within the past thousand miles) and he said it was fine right after everything was done but started to release slow a little after, well ive tried bleeding it and it hasnt changed. I thought i saw fluid on the boot but their wasnt any on their when i looked again(might have been moisture)

chris,

shaunman1979 · Jan 31, 2007

When you press the clutch down does it feel like it has good pressure or is it spongy? Slave, Master, Clutch, Clutch pedal. One of those four things is your culprit. Under the boots on both Slave and Master there is no fluid what so ever? Have you inspected all the lines and connection points. If you pull the pedal up does it spring right up where it needs to be? Or does it take the same time to come up as normal?

ClassicalBor · Jan 31, 2007

kind of a sub-post to this:

I have a slow returning clutch pedal aswell and i know that my master cylinder has a leak... ordered new master cylinder ... could this also cause your clutch to slip at higher gears... 3 4 5...?

romeen · Jan 31, 2007

janks85 said:
Well here is an update. Just for kicks I took it to a mechanic down the street, he told me the slave and master was fine and that their is prob air stuck in the line somewhere(slave and master were both changed recently and clutch has been like this since) and just daily driving it will push it through. Is their anything else I can do, Ive bled it like 3 different times already. Is he right with just driving it will push the air through and will fix itself?

its just so damn annoying when the pedal doesnt shoot back up like it should, its fine for daily driving but anytime i shoot through gears the pedal doesnt come up fast enough.

any help?
chris

About the comment of air in the system being "pushed through" with normal driving I don't see how that is possible. The system is sealed. It sounds like you have bled it thoroughly so I doubt that is your problem.

squyres2005 · Jan 31, 2007

ive "heard" that a slow returning clutch can be a sign of crankwalk.....................

i think thats what mine is doing.........

:cry:

(breaks down into convulsions)

janks85 · Jan 31, 2007

Its not crankwalk...everyone always jumps to that, I checked the crank for movement and their is none the motor only has 90k on it and has no signs of crankwalk at all..Pedal doesnt fall on hard lefts and is not spongy at all, it has pressure and never loses it, it just has a slow return

janks85 · Feb 1, 2007

Anyone else? could it also be when i bled the system i nevr took the cap off the resevior(only to fill with flued then put it back on) i was told today you are supposed to bleed with the cap off...Does it matter? and also could it be that the master and slave are just faulty, can they be bad and not leak?

thanks guys
chris

romeen · Feb 1, 2007

janks85 said:
Anyone else? could it also be when i bled the system i nevr took the cap off the resevior(only to fill with flued then put it back on) i was told today you are supposed to bleed with the cap off...Does it matter? and also could it be that the master and slave are just faulty, can they be bad and not leak?

thanks guys
chris

Are you saying that you repeatedly replaced the cap after everytime you added fluid during the bleeding? If so, there shouldn't be a problem with that. As long as the reservoir never ran dry during the bleeding.
But if you only added fluid once, replaced cap then bled the system without monitoring the fluid level then that is most likely your problem.

janks85 · Feb 2, 2007

Yea I filled it each time. I guess im going to try and bleed it again, After that i guess ill try a new slave. its weird thats why im so stumped. Like said above it has pressure it isnt spongy, and the pedal always comes up but it just doesnt have the POP back it should, could it just need an adjustment even though its hydrolic, their is still and adjustment isnt their?

chris

absolute_DSM · Feb 2, 2007

squyres2005 said:
ive "heard" that a slow returning clutch can be a sign of crankwalk.....................

i think thats what mine is doing.........

(breaks down into convulsions)

420a's dont have the common crankwalk problems of the 7 bolt 4g63.

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