Making power using a EGR valve?

[1990talon]

Ok I have searched and have came up with nothing on this topic. I was thinking actualy a guy at the shop I work at. Ok isn't the product of unburt fuel Nitrogen oxide? So the EGR valve is temperature controlled essentialy. so if you could get a switch to control the valve or a alow it to reach a higher tempature and build up more unburt fuel couldn't you use it to inject a shot of nitrogen oxide kind of like a bottle without the expensive lines and bottle and sitches and such would something like this work and would it have more benifits than taking the EGR off or are we completly wrong in the way we are thinking?

 

[perley03]

Ok I have searched and have came up with nothing on this topic. I was thinking actualy a guy at the shop I work at. Ok isn't the product of unburt fuel Nitrogen oxide? So the EGR valve is temperature controlled essentialy. so if you could get a switch to control the valve or a alow it to reach a higher tempature and build up more unburt fuel couldn't you use it to inject a shot of nitrogen oxide kind of like a bottle without the expensive lines and bottle and sitches and such would something like this work and would it have more benifits than taking the EGR off or are we completly wrong in the way we are thinking?

Nitrogen oxides (NOx) are created by combustion. NOx
The "nitrogen oxide" you are thinking of that comes in a bottle is actually called dinitrogen oxide. Nitrous oxide is pressurized to the point of where it becomes a liquid, and when it is released into the atmosphere it becomes a gas, it becomes very cold. These pressures sometimes will exceed 1500psi. So even if the two products were indeed the same, you would need some sort of onboard pump to pressurize the gas and use it in the combustion process. You are doing some great thinking, but the two products are totally different from each other.
Read the links i provided and share the info with the guy you work with. I hope by reading these they will help answer your question.

 

[1990talon]

Thanks alot just for the info I was just trying to get some cheap power. Great response!


Thanks for clearing that up,
Brandon

 

[pballer]

Nitrogen oxides (NOx) are created by combustion. NOx
The "nitrogen oxide" you are thinking of that comes in a bottle is actually called dinitrogen oxide. Nitrous oxide is pressurized to the point of where it becomes a liquid, and when it is released into the atmosphere it becomes a gas, it becomes very cold. These pressures sometimes will exceed 1500psi. So even if the two products were indeed the same, you would need some sort of onboard pump to pressurize the gas and use it in the combustion process. You are doing some great thinking, but the two products are totally different from each other.
Read the links i provided and share the info with the guy you work with. I hope by reading these they will help answer your question.

Great post. To maby help some more, I dont think the egr would inject the nitrous in the proper location. It is also computer controlled based on load, is recirculates inert exhaust gasses to lower combustion temperatures (high combustion temeratures is what creates NOx) The x in a chemical formula represents variable. ex. NO1, N02, NO3 etc. Nitrous is NO2. Hope I helped answer or teach someone something.