Would this be the best wheel and tire combo?

RipperXX · 11-23-2006, 08:35 AM

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...138&vid=006310

there 17x8 5Zigen FN01R-C wheels wrapped in 235/45 ZR 17 93W Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance tires.

Discount tire is saying that the 17x8 will fit my 90 tsi so I assume it has a close to factory offset?

for a grand total of $1364 to my door it seems....acceptiable if it's about the best I can put on the car without moding the suspention for larger, which I DO NOT plan on doing.

thegchild04 · 11-23-2006, 10:52 AM

looks like a good setup, you will like it. your never going to lower your car?

Ludachris · 11-23-2006, 11:12 AM

Depends on what your criteria is for "best". 17x8 is probably the most common size. Do you plan on putting on big brakes in the future? If so, it might not work with those wheels, at least, not without spacers. You should still be able to lower your car with 17x8 wheels, but you'll need to start paying close attention to offset.

If I wasn't going to track the car I'd probably stick with 17x8. But I'd likely go with the Kosei K1-TS wheels just because they're lighter, and maybe even cheaper. And for a street tire, I'd likely go with the Falken RT-615's.

Again, this all depends on your definition of "best". And that means we have to know what you plan on using the wheel/tire for.

RipperXX · 11-24-2006, 12:23 PM

Yes I do plan to put on "big brakes" I already have some 13" TPM dilled and slotted rotors and the duel piston brake calipers and brackets are on back order. So As soon as I get the calipers and brackets in and get to go back to GA for christmas (they should be in by then) then I will throw them on.

And no I haven't lowered the car yet, but I do plan on lower it. Just doing a simple Eibach prokit + AGX combo.

And about that offset thing Luda, I really dont know what to look at concerning that or how to pick them out. I'll check out the Kosei K1-TS wheels but if it's the one's im thinking of that are like 14lb but not to grate looking then i'll pass for these. I'll also check out the falken tires.

Thanks for the input, keep it comeing please!

Rx3 · 11-24-2006, 12:27 PM

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And about that offset thing Luda, I really dont know what to look at concerning that or how to pick them out.

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WatchItExplode · 11-24-2006, 03:30 PM

I bought those same wheels and measured them for brake clearance. According to the chart on TCE's website, their biggest brake kit will fit behind them. The 17x8's are supposed to weigh 17 pounds. With that tire, they should fit pretty well as long as it isn't lowered much. Unfortunately you can't get Falken RT-615's in that size, but you can get them in 235/40.

illeffekt vr-4 · 11-24-2006, 04:12 PM

find out the exact offset before you actually order the rims. don't assume that they will fit just because they are listed for your car. they don't take into account if you lower your car or more importantly what size tires you will be running.

RipperXX · 11-25-2006, 09:47 AM

they are showing two diferent offsets, 35 & 43 which would be better? I think 35 is stock, so thats better on the wheel bareings, but 43 would proably be better for fitment... but is that so much more it would cause alot more ware on the bareing?

Ludachris · 11-25-2006, 10:15 AM

Problem is, without having someone doing the measurements for you with a specific offset, you won't know if a big caliper will fit. Of course, if there is a good diagram of the wheel online that would be helpful for you. From what I remember when looking for wheels that would fit big brake kits I found a post that ruled these out, but I can't remember where I saw the post. I would do a bit more research if you're serious about getting big brakes to fit without spacers. That was my main priority (function), looks came second.

WatchItExplode · 11-26-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ludachris

Problem is, without having someone doing the measurements for you with a specific offset, you won't know if a big caliper will fit. Of course, if there is a good diagram of the wheel online that would be helpful for you. From what I remember when looking for wheels that would fit big brake kits I found a post that ruled these out, but I can't remember where I saw the post. I would do a bit more research if you're serious about getting big brakes to fit without spacers. That was my main priority (function), looks came second.

I actually did measure this exact wheel, using this guide: http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

This is assuming it's the +35mm offset that I got, since a +43 17x8 would never fit with stock suspension. According to that guide, I can easily fit TCE's "road race" kit and BSL6 caliper with these wheels.

clipsit · 11-26-2006, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RipperXX

they are showing two diferent offsets, 35 & 43 which would be better? I think 35 is stock, so thats better on the wheel bareings, but 43 would proably be better for fitment... but is that so much more it would cause alot more ware on the bareing?

No...as I found out the hard way about offsets...

...I am not sure what the stock offset of the 1g, but the 2g is 46+ and I think I read that the 1g is too, but don't quote me on that, and I have seen guys run the 35+ offset in that same rim on 1g's and 2g's in a 17x8 and they look fine, same offset as the evo...

I actually want them too, but am looking at other options. But that rim in a 35+ offset looks real nice and doesnt need a spacer either. I just met a guy on tuners here at a car like 3 weeks ago at a meet, where he had them and he worked at discount tire too, so he was sure..hit him up..his name is Midnight DSM. Hope that helps...So I'd say the 35+ would be better for that wide of a rim, but like it was mentioned before, if you have suspension mods, ask first...

D_Eclipse9916 · 11-27-2006, 06:14 PM

I run 235/40/18 5zigen FN01-RC with 17x7.5 (I know but I Got a ridiculous deal) with offset of 43, depending on when my brakes get here, I just might have to get spacers, would suck tho if I had to.

RipperXX · 11-29-2006, 07:45 PM

Well Im not near my rotors to measure them, but I think there like 13" or something like that there freaking huge, heavy as crap (thats good) drilled & slotted... real nice quality from what I saw. There TMP's... kinda pricey or at least they were to me anyway. But should defently be worth it.

Does anyone know if you really need to change the proportioning valve when doing the brake upgrade?

WatchItExplode · 11-29-2006, 09:36 PM

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Does anyone know if you really need to change the perportioning valve when doing the brake upgrade?

No, you don't have to.

wret · 11-30-2006, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RipperXX

Well Im not near my rotors to measure them, but I think there like 13" or something like that there freaking huge, heavy as crap (thats good) drilled & slotted... real nice quality from what I saw. There TMP's... kinda pricey or at least they were to me anyway. But should defently be worth it.

Does anyone know if you really need to change the proportioning valve when doing the brake upgrade?

No, but you should consider it.

Most cars are designed and set up with a bit more bias toward the front, because it's safer. When you switch to even larger front brakes you may actually reduce your average stopping distance by giving even more bias to the front. You should think about ways to add more to the rear, either by pad material selection, rotor size increase, caliper piston increase or proportioning valve.

RipperXX · 11-30-2006, 08:25 AM

Where would I get the valve for a 93-94 model TSi/GSX ?