which to choose and why?

[Revolution]

Good day guys & girls , I have come accross a great deal and need your collective help.

In the ideal autocrosss/road racing world, the more tire you have = the bigger contact patch you will have. So to run a wide tire you need a wide rim , well thats my delema , which rim?

I have narrowed down the field to two rims that I would run on my tsi

A) the volk racing te37's 17/10
B) advan racing tc2 or the rg or the super advan racing ver.2 wheels

Basically I am still weighing out the cosmetic differences on the advan part to their practicall differences. Advan's rims are all very light but some styles are heavier then others ,so im currently waiting for some english feedback as to their weight at my desiered size.

As far as the te37 goes it's size fits with form and weight and is always eye catching regardless of it's style .


this is a website to view advan rims,and then volk rims.

http://www.advan.com/product/index.jsp

http://www.wheelsboutique.com/default.asp

 

[jtmcinder]

Do it right. Choose the tire and then the wheel. Are you planning on running 275/40/17s?

- Jtoby

 

[Revolution]

How did you know?

I just thought these tires would be adequate for daily driving. As for auto cross, these tires will definately not give me the same response as say a high priced advan tire would.

In retrospect, the width of the tire would enable me to push it to the limit considering that the car is an AWD, thus hopefully this will be a good buy with minimal trade offs.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...arch=false&partnum=74ZR7HTRZ&fromCompare1=yes

 

[ACM]

Rule of thumb on rim width is to run close to as wide as the tyre specs allow for. But there are exceptions of course, so pick your tyre and then find out what width the fast guys use.

The national level ESP crowd run this tyre, people like Sam Strano have probably tested on every width practical, they would be the people to ask. Actually, I think DG runs this tyre as well, so he will be the best person to answer this question.

Keep in mind that you will have to either flare the front arches to clear these or you will have raise the car up, which will move you out of the 2G's camber curve sweet spot, unlesss you change the arm lengths to bring it back.

Charles

 

[Lunch_Box]

How much are those advan rims?

 

[Revolution]

Duelly noted guys. In retrospects to the questions and remarks I havent decided on raising the car yet. I will be using a spacer for shure but again I havnt decided on how big because I yet havent decided on the rims.

I have decided to go with either the advan rg race weels wich are supposedly the lightest of the bunch (so says the sales rep _keep in mind it's not the most expensive one out of the three) or again the volk te37's .

The only reason I placed advan in my equassion is, well every top race team especially hks uses them on their race cars i.e the carbon fiber evo wich currently holds the fastest time attack record in japan .

So their has to be a very good reason for this,not to take away anything from volk but it's kinda turned out to be like von dutch ,expensive but most ppl have it.

And finally I am paying 1500 canadian for all four rims whether it's advan or volk .
And yes that also includes shipping from japan.

 

[DG-FNR]

There's no need to run this wide of a tire on the street. I'd consider a 255 the widest practical maximum width for a street tire, and 245 are plenty wide.

For a race tire, wider is indeed better, assuming that the tire can be brought up to operating temperature in the time availible - it is typically better to have a narrow, hot tire than a wide, cold tire.

That is largely a fuction of tire compound. The softer compounds like the Hoosier A3S04 and the Kumho V710 heat up fast enough so that you can run a 275/40 or 285/35 and get enough heat in it for the tire to start working. A harder compound tire like a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup might not.

The other issue that needs to be examined is tire spring rate. A 275-17 worked very well in an A3S03, which had stiff sidewalls. The A3S04 has softer sidewalls in the same size, and steering response went to shit. I'm now going to be evaluating the 285-18 in an attempt to get the steering response back.

Note the word "evaluating". I'm buying a set of 18X10.5 wheels and tires, but they will be tested back to back with the 17X9.5, and the fastest setup wins. That means it is entirely possible that I'll never run the 18s in competition. Ya pays yer money, you takes yer chances.

I've been using the Volk TE-37 for years, and they are a strong wheel with good weight for the price. The 18s are going to be Enkei RP-F1s, which are of a similar order but should be availible on a shorter time frame. I totally don't care about wheel styling; my priorities are fitment, strength, price, and weight, in that order. Once you get down around 18 lbs for a 17X10, the price starts to skyrocket for reduced weight in the same strength class.

DG

Learn: http://autocross.dsm.org/books.html

 

[Revolution]

I've decided to go with the advan 17/9.5 RG rims wich I have been told are the lightest of my selection and maybe just as light or even lighter then the volkte37's .

I will post the exact weight when the rep sends me the reformated rim info to me.

I'll keep you ppl posted.