FWD = 2.99 60ft @ 82mph!

[got_jesus?]

Well I hit the track for the first time with this car last night and ahhhhhhhhhhh...it is really hard trying to launch this thing! I was not planing on racing that night just because I had the 18's and I had about 50lb worth of extra stuff in my car, but my friend twisted my arm and I did...!

My first and best pass for the night was: 9.2@83 (bad traction)

What surprise me is that I got a 2.99 60ft and managed to get a 82mph on one of my runs...that is some killer top end.

If I can get my 60ft to 2.0 what do you think I will run? mid to low 8's?

I attached my slips for your viewing.

I know this thing is a lot faster with all the crap done to it but, the 18's are obviously not helping

I am going to try to find some stock 16's so I can get a more accurate time.

There were 2 colts with the 4g63 and i ran them several times. They would get me out of the hole but once I gain traction I past them up pretty fast. I was really impressed. One had a 20g at 10psi and the other only had the 14b 14psi on slicks.

I had fun nevertheless but I wish I had some 16's so I could of hit the mid 8's...maybe next time.

Your thoughts?

 

[CanadianTSi]

How much boost were you running? I think 83 mph seems a bit low, I was doing 88mph with a 16g in my AWD.

 

[grans0o]

I pulled a 9.4 @ 78mph in the 1/8th on a 2.3 60ft in my fwd.
Jeez dude, looks like your reaction times could use some work, .8s and a 1 And I know if I can get better 60 ft times you could too.

 

[Violater101]

How much boost were you running? I think 83 mph seems a bit low, I was doing 88mph with a 16g in my AWD.

No offense, but good for you. It's all about the short time and getting out of the hole and being able to maintain it. If its anything like my car, 2nd gear is pointless on street tires because it just roasts the tires and insta rev limiter so I can only go 50% throttle as measured by the log. In order to get the power to the ground and get a good time/mph, you need some sticky tires bottom line.

Just for perspective...my 04 cobra with a 2.1 short time on stock f1's went [email protected] while my dsm with a 2.6 short time went [email protected]

Power #'s:

DSM on racegas 415 @23-24psi (weight with driver 3250)
Cobra 450 (weight with driver 3870)

I know for a fact the dsm will kill the cobra on the topend.

 

[MrPikolo]

How much boost were you running? I think 83 mph seems a bit low, I was doing 88mph with a 16g in my AWD.

Yeah, but did you run a 9.2 in the 1/8 at that speed?

on the same note, i ran a 9.4@46 mph before

 

[CanadianTSi]

I was under the impression that FWD's tend to trap higher then AWD's

 

[Syndicate13]

I was under the impression that FWD's tend to trap higher then AWD's

If they are actually accelerating instead of fighting wheelspin half the track. On a completely off topic note, and no offense, I am sick and tired of you responding to every person's track times with I went "[email protected]" on my 16g. His setup may be different than yours, his altitude may be different and I'm sure as hell it's a lot more humid in Texas than it is in Canada. Like I said I don't really mean to be a dick but lighten up, give him some actual pointers rather than just "your car is slow because mine went 12.9@110 on an Evo3". While not your exact wording, it is the way it comes across to someone when you post it, because that's the exact way I took it when you said it to me.

 

[NewB2dsm]

No offense, but good for you. It's all about the short time and getting out of the hole and being able to maintain it. If its anything like my car, 2nd gear is pointless on street tires because it just roasts the tires and insta rev limiter so I can only go 50% throttle as measured by the log. In order to get the power to the ground and get a good time/mph, you need some sticky tires bottom line.

Just for perspective...my 04 cobra with a 2.1 short time on stock f1's went [email protected] while my dsm with a 2.6 short time went [email protected]

Power #'s:

DSM on racegas 415 @23-24psi (weight with driver 3250)
Cobra 450 (weight with driver 3870)

I know for a fact the dsm will kill the cobra on the topend.

so you are saying your dsm with 415whp or crank hp only went 83mph in the 1/8 mile? FWD or not thats shitty, im going to say driver error on that one. Sorry man but thats the truth. That or you are running 35dollar walmart tires or really worn out ones.


But to the topic at hand, 82mph seems a bit low. Try to cut some better 60fts and like was said what boost were you running and be honest how good of a driver are you? I know on race gas im pulling 91mph on my small 16g.

 

[CanadianTSi]

If they are actually accelerating instead of fighting wheelspin half the track. On a completely off topic note, and no offense, I am sick and tired of you responding to every person's track times with I went "[email protected]" on my 16g. His setup may be different than yours, his altitude may be different and I'm sure as hell it's a lot more humid in Texas than it is in Canada. Like I said I don't really mean to be a dick but lighten up, give him some actual pointers rather than just "your car is slow because mine went 12.9@110 on an Evo3". While not your exact wording, it is the way it comes across to someone when you post it, because that's the exact way I took it when you said it to me.

I'm not trying to be cocky or put anyone down in any way, i'm just trying to give an example of what a similarily modded car should trap. Hell 12.9 at 110...I mean come on learn how to drive already...

 

[Syndicate13]

I'm not trying to be cocky or put anyone down in any way, i'm just trying to give an example of what a similarily modded car should trap. Hell 12.9 at 110...I mean come on learn how to drive already...

But similar mods is not the same and even identical setups won't run the same times. For a really good example look at mine and Newb2DSMs car. We have very similar setups and his car has always been faster than mine. I'm sure he drives better than me and his car is tuned very well. I was extremely happy with my track times as my expectations were only 13.5's, 12.9 with no tuning whatsoever and a leaky TB? If my car would stay running long enough for me to get back to the track and get some help from a pro I hope to better Kyle's time by a few tenths, but only time will tell.

 

[got_jesus?]

Thanks for your comments guys...

This car, I know for a fact is capable of a way faster time.

Here are some of the reasons I feel I got such a crapy time.

- 18's
- street tires
- first time at the track with this car
- 2.5-2.9 60ft
- only able to have half throttel all thru 1st
- I am not the best driver in the world but I am not the worst..still learning how to launch a boosted FWD...

I am running 19psi.

82mph with a 2.9 60 ft means I have a strong top end and not a bit low if you ask me! I don't know how you say that is low. If my 60ft was 1.9-2.1 I should be in the mid 90's IMO.

That fact that I manage to get 83 mph when my 60ft was so bad impressed me.

Look at this example ---> [email protected] 60ft 1.845 I pulled this from the 1/8 data base. He got a 1.845 60ft and pulled a 8.4@82mph I had a 2.9 and got a 82mph so if my 60ft was the equivalent I would have a way faster mph and obviously a faster time.

If they are actually accelerating instead of fighting wheelspin half the track. On a completely off topic note, and no offense, I am sick and tired of you responding to every person's track times with I went "[email protected]" on my 16g. His setup may be different than yours, his altitude may be different and I'm sure as hell it's a lot more humid in Texas than it is in Canada. Like I said I don't really mean to be a dick but lighten up, give him some actual pointers rather than just "your car is slow because mine went 12.9@110 on an Evo3". While not your exact wording, it is the way it comes across to someone when you post it, because that's the exact way I took it when you said it to me.

THANkS!

 

[fastaseagle]

Thanks for your comments guys...

This car, I know for a fact is capable of a way faster time.

Here are some of the reasons I feel I got such a crapy time.

- 18's
- street tires
- first time at the track with this car
- 2.5-2.9 60ft
- only able to have half throttel all thru 1st
- I am not the best driver in the world but I am not the worst..still learning how to launch a boosted FWD...

I am running 19psi.

82mph with a 2.9 60 ft means I have a strong top end and not a bit low if you ask me! I don't know how you say that is low. If my 60ft was 1.9-2.1 I should be in the mid 90's IMO.

That fact that I manage to get 83 mph when my 60ft was so bad impressed me.

Look at this example ---> [email protected] 60ft 1.845 I pulled this from the 1/8 data base. He got a 1.845 60ft and pulled a 8.4@82mph I had a 2.9 and got a 82mph so if my 60ft was the equivalent I would have a way faster mph and obviously a faster time.


THANkS!

man you a are retarded.... just because you look at someone elses numbers doesnt mean crap... my fwd went a 14.2 with a 2.7 sixty foot at 105mph then i turn around and pull a 2.1 60ft and go 13.0 at 107 mph which my 1/8 mile traps were both 84 mph.. 60fts... you have to remeber your fwd to run a 13.0 you will have to trap around 107mph but in a awd you can trap around 100 mph.. its all about traction... was the guy who got a 1.8 sixty foot awd if so that why he trapped 82 mph if he was fwd he would trap around 90 some mph.. with a 1.8 sixty foot.

 

[Violater101]

so you are saying your dsm with 415whp or crank hp only went 83mph in the 1/8 mile? FWD or not thats shitty, im going to say driver error on that one. Sorry man but thats the truth. That or you are running 35dollar walmart tires or really worn out ones.

Please refrain from posting when you have no idea what you are talking about....Once boost hits around 4k (it really hits hard) and I get wheel hop, so thus I can't go full throttle unless I want to break something, and when I shift into 2nd, it just lights up the tires once again, so I can either go full throttle and hit the rev limiter in less than 1 sec or go 50% throttle feathering it and finally hook in 3rd gear. No, these are not crappy walmart tires ...225 50 kuhmo mx's. As for my driving skills, i've let numerous people drive my car that know what they are doing and they have the same problems as me. I could care less what ET I run to be honest. I take my car to the track for fun. Sure, ET is nice, but as long as i'm trapping a respectible mph, I'm happy. If I want to go for ET, that's why I have the cobra.

 

[got_jesus?]

man you a are retarded....

No need for this crap


However yes the 1.8 was a FWD other wise I would of not posted it... WTF

Man, someone needs some advise and they are a retard for it or a retard for trying to give a opinion himself on what could be the issue!

If you were just playing then please disclose it next time and disregard the above post...

man you a are retarded.... just because you look at someone elses numbers doesnt mean crap... my fwd went a 14.2 with a 2.7 sixty foot at 105mph then i turn around and pull a 2.1 60ft and go 13.0 at 107 mph which my 1/8 mile traps were both 84 mph.. 60fts... you have to remeber your fwd to run a 13.0 you will have to trap around 107mph but in a awd you can trap around 100 mph.. its all about traction... was the guy who got a 1.8 sixty foot awd if so that why he trapped 82 mph if he was fwd he would trap around 90 some mph.. with a 1.8 sixty foot.

how do you run 84 on both runs but under your profile it states your 13.0 pass was a 86mph 1/8

I know that AWD are going to trap lower...I am not a noob. Thanks for the info though...

 

[fastaseagle]

the spelling i was messing around with but no i went 13.01 and 13.03 and a 13.02 when i went to the track ALL WITH DIFFERENT TRAP SPEEDS... my point is you cant say your going to run faster if you pull a better 60ft.. this point has been proven many times look at sheps latest run over 170 mph for the first time yet still slower than his fastest pass..

 

[got_jesus?]

the spelling i was messing around with but no i went 13.01 and 13.03 and a 13.02 when i went to the track ALL WITH DIFFERENT TRAP SPEEDS... my point is you cant say your going to run faster if you pull a better 60ft.. this point has been proven many times look at sheps latest run over 170 mph for the first time yet still slower than his fastest pass..

Cool!

that makes since...hmmm That’s his mph not his 60ft. If you get a faster 60ft doesn't it mean your time will be faster? At least that is the rule of thumb that I have been going by for the past years...

Well I still think my car is capable of the mid to low 8's if I can get a better 60ft I am in the process of looking for some cheap 16's so I can run with them. That alone will be a big improvement. I don't like to race at the 1/8 track anyways but it is closer then the 1/4 one so I just go to have fun. FWD don't do to good in the 1/8 anyways do to traction...

Thanks for the info

 

[got_jesus?]

I was under the impression that FWD's tend to trap higher then AWD's

Yes we do...my point is had I got a better 60ft my cars momentum and speed will be better argo I will have a higher mph.

 

[fastaseagle]

once again thats not rue ..

 

[got_jesus?]

once again thats not rue ..

Please explain.

lets say I got to 60ft in 2.5 sec and my mph @ 60ft was 38mph

my next pass 60ft was 2.0 sec and my mph @ 60ft was 45mph

Wouldn't that improve my ET????????? My car would be moving at a faster rate therefore getting a faster time and mph.

 

[Syndicate13]

Please explain.

lets say I got to 60ft in 2.5 sec and my mph @ 60ft was 38mph

my next pass 60ft was 2.0 sec and my mph @ 60ft was 45mph

Wouldn't that improve my ET????????? My car would be moving at a faster rate therefore getting a faster time and mph.

What he is trying to say is that your MPH will not be higher with a better 60'. The lower 60' will lower your ET dramatically but you have already seen that different 60's don't equal higher MPH. My car on pump gas trapped 82 for comparison and went 8.48 with a 1.8 60'. I had one run with a bad launch at 2.0 60' and went 8.7@82. Low 8's require 84ish MPH in a full weight DSM with a good launch (1.7-1.8ish).

 

[got_jesus?]

What he is trying to say is that your MPH will not be higher with a better 60'. The lower 60' will lower your ET dramatically but you have already seen that different 60's don't equal higher MPH. My car on pump gas trapped 82 for comparison and went 8.48 with a 1.8 60'. I had one run with a bad launch at 2.0 60' and went 8.7@82. Low 8's require 84ish MPH in a full weight DSM with a good launch (1.7-1.8ish).

I see

...but for me it will be in the 90's since I am FWD

 

[fastaseagle]

maybe.... stop benchracing jk me>u

 

[got_jesus?]

maybe.... stop benchracing jk me>u

Man you are really making me want to go to the track this weekend to prove my car is worthy of 90's...

 

[red4G63T]

Get some cheap 15s and slap on some drag radials, or some 26x15x8.5 M&H slicks, throw on a LSD and get some 1.6-1.7 60fts and your in the 12s for sure

 

[95RedRS]

how come you didn't go the rest of the 1/4 mile???

you only went an 1/8th mile how come?