Project "Rely-on-ability" : 6 bolt rebuild - Page 8

turbosax2 · 07-29-2008, 09:41 PM

Fair enough. So how did it get so low on oil then?

blcknspo0ln · 07-29-2008, 09:44 PM

Here I go again, tinkering along with this never ending POS. After sanding, I used compressed air to clean up the excess dust and wiped the entire bay with some clorox wipes I had laying around, then I sprayed the air again to make sure it was as clean as it could be. After that, I masked everything off as best I can and went to work:

I used duplicolor black primer for the first 2 coats:

Then I switched to duplicolor grey primer for another coat:

blcknspo0ln · 07-29-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by turbosax2

Fair enough. So how did it get so low on oil then?

You know, I looked all around for signs of oil leaking, but nothing. I suspect it was burning oil, but again, nothing indicates that either.

Finally, the last two layers of duplicolor semi-gloss black, you can see why I used the grey.

Hard to see, but the final product:

blcknspo0ln · 07-29-2008, 09:52 PM

Here's the work today, I never thought I'd see my damn engine sitting on a table.

re-teflon'd the SMIM and installed a new fitting. The original came with 2 3/8's and 2 1/8's. I only needed one 3/8 for the brake booster, so I swapped in another 1/4.

Finally put in my dual nozzle (675 + 350)

And my favorite, this took about 1.5 hrs to make. It bolts to some factory holes and is sturdy as can be

kawboy · 07-29-2008, 10:08 PM

Isn't underneath the AC and PS pipes and whatnot still white?

chavez408 · 07-30-2008, 07:17 PM

Any shaft play on your 50 trim yet? How much boost are you running with your meth now? I'm looking into them

TuRBoTaLooN · 07-31-2008, 07:40 AM

Tom, you keep making me jealous. I'm stuck at a standstill now with the rebuild due to lack of money and totalling the evo.

RipperXX · 07-31-2008, 08:13 AM

You totaled an Evo....... tisk tisk thats 8 years bad luck.

blcknspo0ln · 07-31-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kawboy

Isn't underneath the AC and PS pipes and whatnot still white?

Yes it is, but you'll never see it anyway

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Originally Posted by chavez408

Any shaft play on your 50 trim yet? How much boost are you running with your meth now? I'm looking into them

Very slight shaft play, but then again it's been through close to 4 years of beating. Before the engine blew, I was bơosting about 32psi and it dropped off to about 26psi, even with my tial 38mm with a 1.4 dual spring.

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Originally Posted by TuRBoTaLooN

Tom, you keep making me jealous. I'm stuck at a standstill now with the rebuild due to lack of money and totalling the evo.

hah, don't be jealous. The only thing I have on you is TIME. After leaving the job and what not, I've had buttloads of time to spend on the talon. Everything that I have done since the bearing spun has been all labor + a couple cans of paint and sandpaper. est. cost of repair is about 800-1500 depending on what the machine shop says. I want to gather the latter amount before I even take the trip to the machine shop, so I can just drop it off and get it done at one time. I plan on reviving the car mid september, with good luck.

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Originally Posted by RipperXX

You totaled an Evo....... tisk tisk thats 8 years bad luck.

No worries, it wasn't Jeff's fault. The evo will be missed

kawboy · 07-31-2008, 10:05 AM

Haha true. Got any closeups of those areas after the paint?

RipperXX · 08-01-2008, 03:15 AM

Why a black bay on a white car?

blcknspo0ln · 08-01-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kawboy

Haha true. Got any closeups of those areas after the paint?

No, the pictures posted were the closest I took. Not much more detail to talk about other than it's smooth as can be. The paint has fully cured by now and has already had a couple bumps to it without chipping. Overall I'm very happy I took the time to do it.

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Originally Posted by RipperXX

Why a black bay on a white car?

Because I like being different

Well, that and it's much easier to maintain than the white. I was always very embarassed to show off my bay in person because the paint looked like shit. Painting it white was an option, but having seen someone else's car with the black, I think it will look awesome once complete. The black really hides all of the nonessential BS in the engine bay and makes for a cleaner look.

On a different note, I dropped off my block @ Edwin Automotive in Parsippany and Rob there really knows his shit. He had a once over with my stuff and said that everything was salvageable. I have since spent about $350 of money that I should have spent

on new ARP hardware, ACL trimetal bearings, and a new set of rings.

kawboy · 08-01-2008, 06:49 PM

Duplicolor Hight Heat Semi-Gloss Black? Any clear?

Pardon me for all the questions, but I pulled my motor and I'm also looking to freshen up my engine bay but was wondering how others did it (What paint, various lines, etc)

TuRBoTaLooN · 08-02-2008, 03:00 PM

Holy poop Tom! I completely missed the part of this thread where you spun a bearing!!! Now it makes sense. Sorry to hear though, but I feel your pain. You're luck those parts are salvegable. I still have yet to remove the block/trans from my car. Everything else is out including the head (thanks for the help). Your block you gave me is on the engine stand halfway stripped. Since the evo accident I havn't had much time to work on her. But now I need to buy another car (which I will be picking up next week) and money is even tighter than before. However the new car should save me money on car payments AND gas so I should save up for the Talon motor no problem.

Let me know how it goes with that place in Parsippany. Maybe they can do some work for me since that's pretty local for me and I grew up in Parsippany. Have fun on your trip (jerk) and good luck with the re-build.

fourreGsixty3 · 08-03-2008, 10:53 AM

Damn Tom, you better get into the 11s soon as your motor comes back! lol The bay looks good too!

squeak10686 · 08-04-2008, 08:32 AM

What do you suspect the cause of spinning the bearing was, I know what makes a bearing spin, but what do you believe happened?

90laserRSfwd · 08-26-2008, 02:35 AM

I know this thread hasn't been posted in since the beginning of August but I was just wondering how your making out man?

blcknspo0ln · 08-31-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRBoTaLooN

Holy poop Tom! I completely missed the part of this thread where you spun a bearing!!! Now it makes sense. Sorry to hear though, but I feel your pain. You're luck those parts are salvegable. I still have yet to remove the block/trans from my car. Everything else is out including the head (thanks for the help). Your block you gave me is on the engine stand halfway stripped. Since the evo accident I havn't had much time to work on her. But now I need to buy another car (which I will be picking up next week) and money is even tighter than before. However the new car should save me money on car payments AND gas so I should save up for the Talon motor no problem.

Let me know how it goes with that place in Parsippany. Maybe they can do some work for me since that's pretty local for me and I grew up in Parsippany. Have fun on your trip (jerk) and good luck with the re-build.

I hope you're getting your 2.3 build on the way. If you need assembling, just let me know. As for machining, Rob Hutton @ Edwin Automotive in Parsippany is freakin awesome. He was a bit pricey, but that's because I asked him to spend A LOT of time building this block as perfect as he could. He understood and respected my request for good work and I think he billed me appropriately.

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Originally Posted by fourreGsixty3

Damn Tom, you better get into the 11s soon as your motor comes back! lol The bay looks good too!

Tell me about it

11's have eluded my for 2 years now and even with my setup it still kicks my ass. It's not the cars fault ,though, I just suck at piloting

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Originally Posted by squeak10686

What do you suspect the cause of spinning the bearing was, I know what makes a bearing spin, but what do you believe happened?

I honestly don't know what went wrong with the motor. It may be due to the block being mysteriously rehoned without new rings (entirely possible, don't ask), lack of oil pressure from me not paying attenion, or maybe just an aggressive tune @ 30psi and 19* timing, but with 1* knock. Who knows.

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Originally Posted by 90laserRSfwd

I know this thread hasn't been posted in since the beginning of August but I was just wondering how your making out man?

I just got back from vaca and parts are being ordered very soon. Since then, I have had the block rebuilt by a local (great) machinist and built to a spec that I researched and requested using yet better quality parts (ACL trimetal mains&rod bearings, ARP main, ARP rod, new virgin 90 crank, recon'd rod) and built to spec with a spec sheet. No second guessing with this motor and it will be put together shortly with new OEM gaskets and a newer sprung 6 puck clutch disc. No reason to replace the disc, i just figure I'd replace it as I'm rebuilding. The build will take place within the next week or so and I'll be sure to snap photos to continue my build log.